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@Curb Safe Charmer: St. Joseph's Private School, Kuching

@Curb Safe Charmer: Hello,

This is Francislimsj. What are the copyrighted work that you meant on my draft on St. Joseph's Private School, Kuching? If you mean the material taken from the website of the school at https://stjosephkuching.edu.my/ how do I prove that I was the one who wrote those as well?

By the way, I cannot find my draft on Wikipedia? Where is it now so that I can edit it?

Thank you.

Genevieve Leveille

Dear Curb, I have declared that on my talk page that I don't want to you to be following my edition and articles that I created despite the fact that Wikipedia is free and anyone can edit.

Regarding Genevieve Leveille article which I recently created. You inserted a template for contradictory which clearly shows that there is no reasonable link that says she is from United States, here is the link that said she is Haitian-american (https://www.plongaye.com/2019/11/14/une-haitienne-parmi-les-personnalites-les-plus-influentes-de-la-technologie-en-angleterre/) for this reason I'm going to remove the template for contradictory Abbas Kwarbai (talk) 10:30, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

@Abbas Kwarbai: Regarding your preference for me to not edit articles you created, please read Wikipedia:No-edit orders#"Stay out".

I am glad that you have found a source for her nationality. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:44, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Martina Fuchs

Concerning page, you deleted moderation and public speaking, please can you tell me rationale behind removing the heading and merging them in her career. Because I have look for numerous anchors Wikipedia page where they have public speaking and sometimes with moderation. If there is no any positive reason I will undo it from where it was. Abbas Kwarbai (talk) 11:48, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

@Abbas Kwarbai: The sentence about the languages she can speak doesn't belong in a section about moderation or public speaking, and once it was moved to the section on education it leaves a single sentence. Per WP:PARAGRAPH and MOS:PARA we try to avoid having single-sentence paragraphs and single sentence sections. Public speaking and event moderation is part of her career, so it belongs in the career section.

Comparing one article to another is problematic because the other, older article may not be ideally written or laid out. If you can given some examples I will take a look. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Dmitry Borisovich Volkov

Hello. Please take a look at the article. Thank you very much. 2A00:1FA1:57:4EC5:143C:B956:7C14:EC12 (talk) 09:18, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

There is a backlog of draft articles awaiting review. Someone will review it when its turn comes. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:18, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Jucradigital (talk) 13:34, 21 October 2020 (UTC) Change of username

Hi there

Sorry I'm VERY new to this and struggling to understand the proper process with all the reference material that wikipedia uses in its explanations.

I got the welcome note about my username and it should change.

How do I do this. I just tell you the new name I would like here?

Jucradigital (talk) 13:34, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

@Jucradigital: To find out how to change your username please read Wikipedia:Changing username. However that wasn't the issue my message to you was about. Your username gives the impression that you are editing Wikipedia in a professional capacity, working on behalf of a client. If that's the case, you need to declare it before editing further. See WP:PAID. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:39, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

@Curb Safe Charmer: - Ah very good. I think I have now done this properly on my talk page.Jucradigital (talk) 16:57, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

About Hueb Jewelry - Rejection

Hi,

Thank you for your response. I would be grateful to you if you can point out what additions I can make to the draft / article I have submitted for it to be accepted? I look forward to hearing from you.

Warm Regards Pratibha

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pratibha P75 (talk • contribs) 14:13, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

@Pratibha P75: please read the message I left for you in the pink box at the top of the draft article or in the yellow box on your talk page. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:43, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi, my article got deleted before I could contest it

The reason why my page was deleted was that apparently, it was copied from https://eidain.com/kurulus-osman/. However, I didn't copy it from that page but that page copied it from an older version of the 'Cast and characters' section on Kuruluş: Osman section. Here is proof: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kurulu%C5%9F:_Osman&oldid=984825354#Cast_and_characters. What should I do? Limorina (talk) 07:17, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

@Limorina: You've asked the same question on the talk page of the administrator who deleted the draft. They are able to access the deleted draft and see if what you've said is valid. I am not an administrator and cannot see the deleted draft so I cannot help you. Please wait for Cabayi to reply to you. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:39, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! Limorina (talk) 15:39, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Waterlism

Hi yes me again please look at this https://thoughtcatalog.com/john-w-howell/2013/05/how-to-start-your-own-religion/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by TacoDr3w (talk • contribs) 14:50, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

@TacoDr3w: we are all volunteers here, and we have better things to do than deal with the stuff you made up. Please stop. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the formatting

Hey thanks a lot for formatting my page. It was quite relief since this is my first submission. Regarding merging the page with Adams Bridge origin page, actually my page covers the controversy with respect to the canal project as well so I guess it's better to keep them this way. Thanks a lot again :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 08:41, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Bello Lafiaji

What's the essence of putting template of the neutrality of this article is disputed. Why do injure my articles? I told you already to stop editing my articles. You sent me a link that talked about anyone can edit my articles because no one one article. Nonetheless, my declaration on my talk page is also significant issue; where I mentioned to stop appearing in my articles. Why do you concentrate on my articles because there are over thousands of articles to be considered. I warned you not to be involving on my articles, no any editor attack me other you. I don't know you and you too you don't know me. Why are you appearing in my Wikipedia life. Please and please stop editing or appearing in my Wikipedia articles even though no one own any articles. Abbas Kwarbai (talk) 11:10, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Final draft

Hi Please check my draft. 1. There is a recommendation to merge the page with Adams Bridge origins page, my page covers a much wider topic and various controversies so the two need not be merged. Please let me know how to remove the merge suggestion

2.For some reason the Submit for Review button is not showing on my page can you please check if there is some backend problem. Sharing my draft link in the meanwhile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ram_Setu_Controversy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 11:17, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Bhumi2tandon: Thanks for your message. While you clearly have an opinion on whether your draft should become a standalone article, we should seek WP:consensus on this. If you look at Talk:Adam's Bridge you'll see that this is a sensitive subject with editors having different viewpoints. We should let others join the discussion. There's no rush.

If I were reviewing the draft at this point in its development I would want to see more reliable sources to back up the statements you've made.

Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:26, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes well thanks for your prompt response. The article has been written from a neutral point of view with relevant quotations and references. Since I have known the material since almost an year now. If you will notice the traffic in the Adam's bridge page you will find that there are hundreds of thousands of searches for the search word "Ram Setu" on Wikipedia,those searches are actually to understand these various debates over the Ram Setu issue only. Being a native of India I know that these various controversies are highly debated in the country. However, there is no wiki page to give the details of the various controversies.To give you an example a debate over Mr Trump does not just include his political policies, it may include his health,his life style etc. Thus this page covers various aspect of the information required to understand the controversy not just the origins.

Thanks again for making the links in my page :)) Bhumi2tandon (talk) 11:38, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Bhumi2tandon: I am not suggesting that the content you've written is not valuable. On the contrary. But I think it could be used to expand the existing article. A separate article is appropriate if the main article becomes too long, but we're not at that point yet. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:48, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Actually if you think about it my page covers a wider topic, so may be merge the Adam Bridge origins page into mine only makes sense because otherwise the Sethusamudram Canal Project Controversy section of the page cannot be added to Origins page.

Actually my first preference would be to publish the page stand alone. Rest not aware of the rules much here since this is my first draft — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 12:01, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Draft UArchitects

Dear Curb Safe Charmer

I have made the changes to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:UArchitects page. The promotional award section has been removed and i would like to publish the page. However i can not find how to officially do this.. could you tell me the steps ?Meimaar.93 (talk)

Greetings Meimaar.93 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meimaar.93 (talk • contribs) 11:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Meimaar.93: You only have one reference, and that appears to be text that the company has written about itself. Please add references that show that the company has been written about in depth by multiple reliable, independent publications such as books or national newspapers. The coverage should be WP:SECONDARY which means in this case that rather than those publications reporting about a new building being constructed that was designed by the firm, the writer should provide their own analysis, evaluation, interpretation of that project rather than just stating the facts about it. Once you have three such references, resubmit your draft for review. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:56, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Edit conflict

Hi Someone has edited my page by adding remarks within the page itself. Now when I correct the remarks its leading to an edit conflict. Kindly resolve the issue Link to my page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ram_Setu_Controversy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 13:38, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Bhumi2tandon: I don't know how to resolve an edit conflict for you. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:48, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok no problem thanks for your help. But don't know why someone had to put remarks inside the page itself funny — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 13:52, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Reviewed page Ram Setu Controversy

Hi Thanks for your review. Ok so those edits in my page were made by you, actually those edits were causing an Edit Conflict on my page when i was trying to make the recommended alterations. Was seeking your help for the Edit Conflict earlier if you remember. The recommended changes have been made the name of scientists added and citations given. Please check under the heading "Natural or human origins". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 15:23, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Bhumi2tandon: Unfortunately as this comparison illustrates the sections titled 'Ramayana' and 'Abrahamic story' that I tagged as being unsourced are still unsourced. The statements like 'some scientists believe' and 'various scientists', 'various opinions have been expressed' are problematic. Please read WP:WEASEL for why. I see another user has reverted your re-submission of the draft, as those issues were not addressed. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:34, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi

First of all thanks a lot for your patience today.

Have removed the section with the 'scientists' part objected by you. But could you please help me understand the second objection.

The two sections for which you have recommended adding citations viz Ramayana (section summarising the story of Ramayana) and Adam (Summarising the story of Adam's peak) it's a bit difficult to give citations for these stories, since what is given in these sections is essentially a summary of the two stories given in Ancient Scriptures so giving citation for these summarised stories would be a little difficult since I'd have to cite the Ancient text Ramayana itself. So is it necessary to give a citation in a situation like this.

Here's the edited link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ram_Setu_Controversy#Natural_or_human_origins_controversy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 15:59, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Bhumi2tandon: I presume there are other publications that have written about those stories, so you can add references to those publications. Even if you had to cite Ramayana itself, that would be ok - your sources don't have to be online, so long as someone with the time and inclination could find the material you refer to in a book in a library somewhere. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for more information on why we need citations and how to cite offline sources. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:08, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Regarding the suggestions to merge the Ram Setu Dispute article with two others

Hi Thanks a lot for your suggestion to merge the article 'Ram Setu Dispute' with the existing two pages on the topic. Subsequent to your suggestions and having gone through the proposed articles I would like to bring to your notice that my page traces the time lines of a "Media Controversy" and different aspects of various disputes that have been raised with respect to the Ram Setu at different points of time. My page is not about the academic angle as much as it is about the controversies and at that, the page covers not just academic controversies but legal as well. That's why it's been named Ram Setu 'Controversy'.

To give an example we have several TV shows that for example have episodes that update viewers about the controversy and the history of the entire dispute over the Berlin Wall or an episode that would cover the entire political history of tension between any two nations.

Being a native of India I know that this topic is hotly debated here and if you check the wiki search history the term "Ram Setu" is searched hundreds of thousands of times, this is because that is the term we use for the bridge in this part of the world and basically whole of South Asia. Wikipedia does not have a single page that covers the entire controversy from every angle.

The page is unique because the entire dispute pertaining to the Ram Setu from all the various angles, academic as well as legal and chronological has not been brought together by any other single page on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 04:30, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

@Bhumi2tandon: thank you for expressing your viewpoint on the two proposed merges. We should now wait for others to comment. I see one has already done so in a comment at the top of the draft. It seems you are in a hurry for your draft to be published, but please be patient in letting others comment. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 06:22, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes sure thought I need to put forward my point of view since the opinions are being posted. Can you please give me the link where I can post my comment so that everyone can consider it before voting. Bhumi2tandon (talk) 06:27, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

At Talk:Adam's Bridge and Talk:Sethusamudram Shipping Canal Project#Proposed merge. You can get to these easily by clicking the 'Discuss' link on the merge proposal tags on your draft. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 06:30, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks a lot have posted my message there. Can you please let me know how many (minimum or maximum number) of opinions need to be taken before reaching a decision on the topic?

My first wiki page so am not aware of this process. Bhumi2tandon (talk) 06:36, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

A minimum of seven days. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 06:43, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok actually yes you are right, am in a bit of a hurry because I will be travelling in a few days so not sure how much time I'd be able to give it afterwards. Bhumi2tandon (talk) 07:02, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

So just to confirm rest of draft is ok now we are only waiting for the opinions right? Bhumi2tandon (talk) 07:29, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

By the way just needed one clarification, is there a policy to not allow the page to be published till the discussion is pending....if not it's ok with me to edit some part or lines that anyone might have objection to and proceed to publish the rest of the page. (Since as already said am set to travel in a few days so want to do as much as I possible) Bhumi2tandon (talk) 09:39, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Coming here after seeing the discussion at Talk:Adam's Bridge and looking over the draft (which I had also looked at previously). @Bhumi2tandon: No, the draft is not ready to be moved to the main encyclopedia, for several different reasons, but Wikipedia has no deadline. I understand that you are eager to see your work published, but unfortunately this is not a matter of editing or removing some single sentences or even sections. (I notice that you have yet again submitted the draft for review even though the issues pointed out in the previous decline have not been fixed... so no doubt you will get feedback from another reviewer as well.) You're just going to have to be patient, take the feedback you get to heart, and keep in mind that not everything is appropriate for an encyclopedia article. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 11:18, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Sorry as per my knowledge all previous issues have been fixed at the earliest on my part. If you find any that have not been fixed as yet please feel free to point them out specifically. Bhumi2tandon (talk) 11:29, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

I do understand that you believe that the issues have been fixed, but that is simply not the case. When a draft article has large and overarching problems in several areas, it is unreasonable to expect a reviewer to point out all of them – the normal process is to start with the most serious ones, which were copyright (which has been fixed) and sourcing (which has not been fixed). The next point, which is the one that's being talked about in the merge discussions, is whether the topic of this draft is suitable for a standalone article or if it would make more logical sense to move some of the content to existing articles. It would not be appropriate to publish the draft when those discussions have only just begun. And after that, if uninvolved editors should agree that it makes sense for this to be a separate article, it would have to be thoroughly revised to remove superfluous details, create a more reader-friendly structure, and change the tone to be more neutral. That discussion should not happen on CSC's user talk page, though, and it's not something that's worth spending time and effort on yet. By all means weigh in on the merge discussions, though. --bonadea contributions talk 11:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Objectionable behaviour by Wikipedia editor

Hi sir Since you have given so much of your precious time and energy to my page 'Ram Setu Controversy' am updating you with an issue of objectionable behaviour by an editor that has come up.

Please see a copy of my conversation with him below.

"The POV forks have already been fixed please check. Actually this is my first wiki page submission so I guess every place has its own style and language in which content is required to be written. Be it newspaper or websites :))

You cannot "fix" it. The whole thing is a POV fork. The answer was "no", and will remain "no" no matter how many times you repeat the question. Seraphimblade Talk to me 14:05, 24 October 2020 (UTC) You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that but a gentler tone would be appreciated. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 14:20, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Mr Seraphimblade At 14:20 I objected to a high toned message from you and requested you to use a gentler tone and within 20 minutes of my message you went ahead and declined my draft page submission and arbitrarily closed a discussion that was posted on the page with respect to the merger of the page which was started today morning only and in which only you had given your opinion so far. The page was supposed to remain open for atleast seven days as per guidelines. I find this act on your behalf highly vindictive and prejudiced. Let me remind you that while Wikipedia grants some discretionary powers such vindictive acts are not covered by that.

Had you deleted my page the first time you went through it and thought it to be a POV fork I would not have objected but the action was done within 20 minutes of my submitting a message respectfully objecting to you high toned message this is clearly a vindictive act and highly objectionable behaviour for a place like wikipedia. Let me remind you no one not even you OWN the Wikipedia and small editors like us are the reason the Wikipedia exists. I would really appreciate if you stay away from the draft page now." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 15:45, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Having a discussion on the article page

Yes sir I know article is not the right page to have a discussion but has posted that message on my article deliberately in order to let the reviewer know that my article had been declined maliciously.

Someone had removed that message from the article and now my reviewer is complaining that I have resubmitted the article without addressing the reason for decline.

How can I address the reason for decline when the reason for decline was that the reviewer vindictively declined the article after arbitrarily removing a discussion with respect to its merger opened the same day in the morning in which only he had given his opinion so far — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 23:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

@Bhumi2tandon: I've not seen any malicious or vindictive declines. Please Wikipedia:Assume good faith on behalf of other users, and if you are going to make allegations you need to provide evidence. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:15, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Have reported the matter to Article help desk this was just for your information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi2tandon (talk • contribs) 10:27, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Paolo Sylos Labini

Hi

I got a message from you where you say

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article about yourself, at User:Fsyloslab/sandbox. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged

There is a misunderstanding. I am propositing to write a page about my father Paolo Sylos Labini (see the italian version https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Sylos_Labini) so it is is not an article about myself. My father passed away in 2005 and he was a quite known economist. The article I am proposing was written in collaboration with several professors who were collaborators of my father.

Please do not hesitate to contact me in case of further questions

Thank you

Francesco Sylos Labini — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.56.104.189 (talk) 11:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Copyright conflict on Bamsı Beyrek

I have changed the text on the article into my own words. Also, are you a copyright clerk? Can you please have a look and remove the tag? Limorina (talk) 14:52, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Draft UArchitects

Dear Curb Safe Charmer @Curb Safe Charmer:

I have added 3 new refrences on Draft Uarchitects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:UArchitects, as you asked in our previous talk. And I would like to have a review to be able to publish Kind Regards Meimaar.93 --Meimaar.93 (talk) 15:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Dear Curb Safe @Curb Safe Charmer:

I have eddited the page and added refrences as you asked previously. I would like your review to get the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:UArchitects published.

Kind regards

Meimaar.93 (Meimaar.93 (talk) 13:39, 30 October 2020 (UTC)).

Authorship Misunderstanding

Hello,

There is a slight misunderstanding with your message. You claimed that I have written an autobiography, whereas Min Kim and I have written an article about my son Ronald J. I worked with author Min Kim on the article as he wanted to work along a primary source. My account is Ronald W and I am a retired iron worker.

I got a message from you where you say

"Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article about yourself"

Please let me know what further steps I must take.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkustrup (talk • contribs) 19:49, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

I have replied on your talk page. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:01, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Dr Basil Hunnisett Draft Page

I've rewritten and added the required information to the above article and would be grateful if you could review? Many thanks Harpysett Harpysett (talk) 10:55, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

AfD - Aminu Musa Audu

Your comment here echoed my curiosity. I can only imagine that the cheque bounced. A look at the editor's article creation log gives me great concern about paid editing.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   12:42, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Grace Ihejiamaizu

Thank you so much for your great and awesome work on Grace Ihejiamaizu. It has restored a long lost confidence in me about how Wikipedia works and whether it really works that way or not. I'm passionate about having Africans tell their own stories and I was made to believe that was possible via Wikipedia, but the whole COI thing makes that looking like trying to eat your cake and have it.

Opatachibueze (talk) 22:14, 8 November 2020 (UTC)