Talk:Shit

Usage on television - Canada

The Wikipedia article mentions : "In Canada, "shit" is one of the words considered by the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council to be "coarse, offensive language intended for adults", acceptable for broadcast only after 9:00pm.[19]"

There is no actual list of what the CBSC considers "coarse, offensive language intended for adults". According to my research, I could find no CBSC decision dealing with the word "shit".

The citation [19] points to a CBSC decision that mentions specifically that the word "shit" was bleeped OUT of the television episode of the show South Park that was being reveiewed.

The statement that " "shit" is one of the words considered by the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council to be "coarse, offensive language intended for adults" " cannot be backed by citations. The text following this statement about the television show "Trailer Park Boys" mentions no citations that the use of the word "shit" is prohibited in Canadian television broadcasting, or any specific cases for that television show in particular, and therefore has no value to the article.

"Merde" is not English!

Why have we a subsection for "merde" ? This French word is related to shit solely by meaning. IMO this does not belong; it belongs either in an article having to do with "the ballet world" or in the French w.p. article for shit. Unless someone can explain why it belongs here, I am coming back later to take this out.Wikkileaker (talk) 12:51, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

It provides world context. Many is the time that I have been skiing at Vail or at Les Trois Vallées and heard the French (or Swiss) tourists make their exclamation. Ooh la la! would be second. At the top of the hill. WP:Not paper. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:45, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

This article is for the English word.Wikkileaker (talk) 16:41, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

WP:Not paper. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:46, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

S.H.I.T was a label used in early New England I thought as a warning label for dried bat guano on wooden ships. Ship those crates high as once moisture gets in, it begins to ferment, heat, cook, become combustible material rather quickly. Most couldn't read much, so the short abbreviation was made of SHIT to warn sailors not to put those loads on the ground level to save the ship from fire.

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S.H.I.T. acronym

SHIT as an acronym - referred to elsewhere here - apparently means Store High In Transit, for reasons explained. It's not uncommon in naval circles to hear this explanation but it's obviously making clever use of an existing word.— Preceding unsigned comment added by FR Gr (talk • contribs) 09:47, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

@Fr Gr:, this is a type of False etymology, specifically a Backronym. A backronym is what happens where a phrase is constructed to look like an acronym that explains a word but is created long after the word has already been in use. As the article itself makes clear, shit or its antecedents has been in use for literally hundreds of years. Acronyms in the English language, on the other hand, are almost entirely a post-WWII phenomenon. I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:08, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, it does, thanks.

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2020

"Profane" refers to language that is insulting in a religious context. A better word would be "obscene." 47.27.74.39 (talk) 02:36, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. Moreover, it already uses "vulgar" to offer a slightly different description, and in at least one place in the article, the use of "profane" in the sense you describe is specifically addressed, so changing that would be inappropriate. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 03:32, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

What's unclear about the changes the IP wants to make? He thinks the article should not refer to the word shit as profane (on which point I agree) and that it should use obscene instead (which I disagree with). He is technically correct that it is incorrect to classify the word shit as profane, and I do not agree that Wikipedia is obligated to, or ought to be misusing words in wikivoice just because people commonly do. However, he is wrong about 'obscene' being the proper label: it is, as you said, 'vulgar'. But not obscene. Firejuggler86 (talk) 22:54, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Built like a brick shithouse?

The phrase built like a brick shithouse is used in the United States to compliment a curvaceous woman, but in other English-speaking countries to compliment men with athletic physiques.[11] This meaning originates from the observation that most shithouses are rather ramshackle affairs constructed of plywood or scrap sheets of steel.

So, the "brick" shithouse is not made of bricks, it is made of plywood and scrap metal?

This is not my understanding. For a person to be regarded as being "built like a brick shithouse", it would mean that they are very strong and solid. A brick shithouse (ie a (public) convenience) would be made solidly and strongly so a person being compared to one would be large and muscular.--David Humphreys (talk) 11:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I submit we are talking about outhouses that are overbuilt beyond the normal expectation. See here and there. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:32, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

@David Humphreys:, your understanding of the phrase is not in contradiction to the passage from the article you reference: it appears you misinterpreted the text. The bit about 'ramshackle affairs built of plywood and scrap' describes ordinary shithouses, which are not brick shithouses. I can see how the text as written could easily confuse a reader - perhaps a clarification could be added to the end of that sentence in parentheses, if any of y'all think it's needed. (I have no opinion one way or t'other). Firejuggler86 (talk) 22:04, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Editing required - Backronyms section

I've noticed a couple of issues under the Backronyms section:

• "Ship High in Transit" appears amongst backronyms which are based on college names, and should be relocated (my suggestion: mention it before, letting college-based backronyms flow forward to the following sentences).
• There are two links to the backronym article (my suggestion: make the second one not a link).

I'd happily fix the issues myself, but I can't because the article is semi-protected. Writing here instead, in the hope that someone who can perform edits will take care of it. 95.90.235.121 (talk) 13:40, 4 January 2021 (UTC)