Talk:Messehallen
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Disputed name Messehallen vs Messe Hamburg
[edit]Dear @Evangp:, cc: @AltSylt:, Yes, it's colloquially called "Messehallen" or "Messe" by locals and there is a subway station named "Messehallen" nearby. The same is probably true for folks in kassel, magdeburg, berlin, Schnelsen (also in Hamburg!), essen, köln, bremen, dortmund, and düsseldorf. No surprise, since its just the generic german word for "fair hall".
As I wrote in my move comment: I'm convinced that the official name is "Hamburg Messe" for the following reasons:
- The picture in the article shows the name "Hamburg Messe" over the entrance. Further pictures can be found on Commons or Google Streetview.
- Official (white) street signs around it say "Messe | CCH".
- The operating company is called "Hamburg Messe GmbH".
Please provide proof for your claim that the convention center in Hamburg is actually called "Messehallen" (beyond Hamburg city-limits), and no: a simple comment "REAL" doesn't really help. --Aeroid (talk) 12:57, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
The article is about the convention center, not the company. It's that simple. Evangp (talk) 17:41, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
- again, please provide some proof for your claim. --Aeroid (talk) 23:35, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- proof of what? Evangp (talk) 02:55, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- My ask of you is even simpler. I understand that you claim that this convention center is somehow officially called "Messehallen". Please provide some proof to back up your claim. I have lived across the street for many years and have not see anything beyond the sign of the subway station with the name "Messehallen", but would be happy to be proven wrong. --Aeroid (talk) 16:30, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
- proof of what? Evangp (talk) 02:55, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
comment: i don't care if enwiki names the article "Hamburg Messe", "Hamburg convention center", "Messehallen (Hamburg)", or else. But "Messehallen" only does not make sense. It is a generic term like town hall/Rathaus (the reason why we have Hamburg Rathaus, Rathaus Schöneberg etc). "Messehallen" is not specific to Hamburg. We have dozens of Messehallen in Germany. Holger1959 (talk) 04:02, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Proposed for deletion
[edit]Dear @Evangp:, please respond by discussion. I have formally proposed this for deletion to discuss. Just reverting my proposal without any any participation in a the discussion for deletion is probably not the best way to resolve this. --Aeroid (talk) 10:11, 18 September 2020 (UTC) Hi. What's the big deal? Why do you want the article deleted?
- It's a good article and it isn't hurting anyone or anything by leaving it. Check out the link. Evangp (talk) 13:12, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- The proof is in the pudding: http://www.purple-bootleg.net/whitesnake/tickets/19830118.jpg Evangp (talk) 13:15, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Evangp: Thanks for your point of view, I disagree that this would be a reason to have this article. If you agree that we have a dispute in this interpretation, I kindly ask that you revert back your change an leave my proposal deletion where it was. It is exactly what the banner is for; to allow us and the communit to discuss and resolve this issue. --Aeroid (talk) 15:55, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- Following your reasoning these tickets would be a basis to create an article for ...
... "Theatre" describing a building in New Orleans, instead we have Civic Theatre (New Orleans) ... "Sporthalle" describing another building in Hamburg, instead we have Alsterdorfer Sporthalle - "Hamburg Messehallen" or "Messehallen Hamburg" are names that are used as well for this location. But the current name is, as the picture says "Hamburg Messe", so my suggestion would be a simple note "(also known as Messehallen Hamburg)" on Hamburg Messe and deletion of this.--Aeroid (talk) 16:27, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- Following your reasoning these tickets would be a basis to create an article for ...
- @Evangp: Thanks for your point of view, I disagree that this would be a reason to have this article. If you agree that we have a dispute in this interpretation, I kindly ask that you revert back your change an leave my proposal deletion where it was. It is exactly what the banner is for; to allow us and the communit to discuss and resolve this issue. --Aeroid (talk) 15:55, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- Dear @Evangp:, please contribute to the discussion here and don't just delete my proposal note.--Aeroid (talk) 15:55, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- Deletion discusion is now here [1] --Aeroid (talk) 19:56, 26 September 2020 (UTC)