Talk:2012 Rakhine State riots

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A news item involving 2012 Rakhine State riots was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 12 June 2012.

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The whole article extremely bias against Rohingya. The first sentence "2012 Rohingya riots are a series of ongoing riots, arson and murders perpetrated by groups of Rohingya in northern Rakhine State, Myanmar". It sound like only Muslim Rohingya are committing the the violence. The truth is both Muslime Rohingya and Buddhist Rakhines are committing the violence.

"Reuters saw residents of a mainly Rakhine village near Sittwe on Sunday set ablaze houses they said were Muslim-owned. "We are burning Rohingya houses because they live near our village and they gather at night and try to attack us," said an unidentified ethnic Rakhine man." http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/11/uk-myanmar-violence-idUSLNE85A01C20120611

The title is wrong. It is not Rohingya riots (maybe, it was started by Rohingya) but now it turned into full sectarian violence. The correct title should be "Myanmar 2012 sectarian violence".

Many of the source that used in this article are unreliable and extremely bias against Rohingya. Tarikur (talk) 02:12, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The riots are apparently started by Rohingya. I have no bias against them. There are a few incidences that Rakhine people also retaliated as stated in Reuters. It is mentioned in retaliatory actions section. Since all the deaths are Rakhine and most acts of arson are committed by Rohingya, it's reasonable to say "riots, arson and murders perpetrated by groups of Rohingya". It is apparently not sectarian violence as it is not riot between Muslim and Buddhist. Many Burmese Muslims condemned the riots although they protested against the killing of 10 Muslims. (Note that Rohingya are "majority" in Northernmost Rakhine, Maungdaw and Buthidaung, where most riots are occurring, although they are quite few in Southern Rakhine.)

For what reason you say all local sources are unreliable. Any policy? They do mention retaliations by Rakhine, for example, an article from Eleven stated "Rakhine in Bohmu village burned down Rohingya houses in retaliation". We should also add all the retaliations. Of course, local media's wordings are not neutral sometimes, they use Bengali Rohingya. Foreign sources are repetitive and so far, less detailed. No account would be complete without consulting local media.SWH^®^talk 02:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging without solving the problem won't help. Many retaliatory actions are mentioned. The article even says Rohingya are one of the most persecuted minority in the past. Also, please don't use "warning" too easily. SWH^®^talk 03:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the article to a more neutral title (location rather than group of people) and modified the first sentence. I agree that the title and lead sentence in isolation could be viewed as biased. However, I think the body of the article is fairly balanced. If the OP doesn't point any further specifics instances of alleged bias in the article, I feel the tag should be removed. --ThaddeusB (talk) 04:17, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I also think ThaddeusB's bold edits solve the problem. SWH^®^talk 04:32, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the article looks balanced now. Chocolate Horlicks (talk) 04:36, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It looks pretty balance now. I will remove the tag. Tarikur (talk) 04:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Folks, this is still pretty bad. The Eleven article is extremely biased against Rohinga, describing one of their villages as a "Nazi village," and referring to them as Bengalis. (http://eversion.news-eleven.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=575:curfew-imposed-in-rakhine-township-amidst-rohingya-terrorist-attacks&catid=42:weekly-eleven-news&Itemid=109). This is not a reference we should be using. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.175.121.16 (talk) 20:34, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Nazi" is the actual name of the village. It has no relation to National Socialism (Nazi). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.65.245.7 (talk) 12:25, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that Nazi is the actual name of the village. Also agree that Eleven is biased. But I think the facts cited to Eleven are general and innocuous. Sometimes, they can be suitably cited to other sources. According to latest official figures, over 2528 houses (1336 Rohingya's and 1192 Rakhine's), 9 monasteries, 7 mosques, one school have been destroyed with a casualty figure of 29 (16 Rohingya and 13 Rakhine). That means in the past few days, Rakhine have retaliated much more than what Rohingya have done to them. SWH^®^talk 13:40, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Quotes

Quotes are very prominent and give more weight than ordinary content. So we should use these quote neutrally. In this case we shouldn't use quotes to take the side of either Rohingya (Muslim) or Rakhine (Buddhist) but highlight the violence committed by both.VR _talk 05:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This conflict is racial&ethnic conflict please add this fact to the article?

This conflict is racial&ethnic conflict please add this fact to the article? Hi It is a conflict involving Indo-European speaking Caucasoid raced all-rights-deprived Indo-Aryan Rohingyas against the racial apartheid and irredentism of Sino-Burmese speaking Mongoloid raced Rakhines

Everyday and everywhere we are in front of apartheid and racism as well as economical irredentism of Sino-Burmese peoples (indirectly responsible of the Greece crisis) in Africa, Central Asia and even in Europe and Americas

Please add those perspectives to the article

Thanks

Humanbyrace (talk) 23:30, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]