Talk:Clitoromegaly

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Out of curiosity: Are there any symptoms, apart from the cosmetic thing? Aragorn2 18:44, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

i'm by no means an expert on this kind of thing, but it's my understanding that Clitoromegaly is generally a symptom of something else (hormonal imbalance, drug use, etc), rather than the other way around. the ex-wrestler Chyna has/ had this condition, which was attributed to her steroid use. Joeyramoney 00:53, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

i fail to see what is "grave" about clitoromegaly. ditto with "malformation" -- especially since clitoral formation obviously differs from case to case.--ponyboy 21:11, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Picture

The clitoris in the current photograph does not seem abnormally large... I've seen much larger! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.226.22 (talk) 20:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I think this article requires a photographic or drawn image (non-pornographic). SynthesiseD 19:10, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Metric to Engish conversions are incorrect and should be corrected.

10 mm = 1 cm 2.54 cm = (approximately) 1 inch.

So 35 mm does not equal .05 inch. <== consider that they are square length so conversion factor is (25.4^2)

I see no vagina in that picture, it looks like there's just a shallow furrow under the 'clitoris' meaning this is a male with a hormonal disorder.

no mention of sexual response

there is no mention of any ramifications for the sexual response associated with an enlargened clitoris in the article. some mention of this would be nice. as a (sexually experienced) lay person I would imagine that an enlargened (or even a normal clitoris but on the larger side) would bring increased sexual sensitivity and therefore sexual pleasure (although perhaps annoyance if it rubs continually on clothing etc) as the clitoris is sensitive erectile tissue (like the male penis glans) and one of the female erogenous zones... some expert like to comment and add this to the article please!... 122.148.173.37 (talk) 07:12, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

forplu link?

This was recently reverted as a link to a pornographic site. I'm not sure it really qualifies as that (see http://www.forplu.com/common/aboutus.htm. I'm not sure it qualifies as a good reference though. I don't object to their depiction of vulvas --- I don't think that is pornographic. But it is also NSFW. But then again, why would you be looking at Clitoromegaly at work? --70.2.199.190 (talk) 04:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

I see nothing on that myspace-like "about" page that qualifies those blokes as medical experts. The text removed was right in the lede "There are known to be a few more extreme cases." That site isn't even acceptable as an external link in a medical article. Xasodfuih (talk) 19:02, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Question

"...the typical clitoris is defined as having a crosswise width of 3 to 4 mm. (0.12 - 0.16 inches) and a lengthwise width of 4 to 5 mm (0.16 - 0.20 inches). On the other hand, in Obstetrics and Gynecology medical literature, a frequent definition of clitoromegaly is when there is a CI of greater than 35 mm2 (0.05 inches2)..."

When it says "clitoris", is it referring to the cltoral glans that protrudes from the hood, or the entire glans, covered by the hood and all? 75.197.98.139 (talk) 05:53, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

The term "clitoromegaly" can refer to any abnormal enlargement of the clitoris

Editor Behemoth came to my talk page asking why I was reverting him (for example, here, here and here) at this article and at the Clitoris enlargement article. Behemoth was adding that clitoromegaly should not be confused with "the body modification procedure of clitoris enlargement" and that clitoris enlargement should "not to be confused with the medical condition known as clitoromegaly or macroclitoris." While it is true that clitoromegaly usually refers to a congenital or acquired disorder, the term may refer to any abnormal enlargement of the clitoris; this is what I told Behemoth in my edit summaries and on my talk page. This source that is currently in the article, for example, states, "The causes of clitoromegaly can be classified into four groups; hormonal conditions, non-hormonal conditions, pseudoclitoromegaly and idiopathic clitoromegaly." So the source talks about "true clitoromegaly" and "pseudoclitoromegaly," which shows that clitoromegaly does not only refer to a congenital or acquired disorder, unless, for example, you consider clitoris enlargement that has been caused by masturbation to be acquired clitoromegaly; the source refers to clitoris enlargement that has been caused by masturbation as pseudoclitoromegaly; it states that "pseudohypertrophy of the clitoris has been reported in small girls due to masturbation: manipulations of the skin of prepuce leads to repeated mechanical trauma, which expands the prepuce and labia minora, thus imitating true clitoral enlargement."

The source, by using the term clitoral enlargement, also shows that clitoral enlargement does not only refer to body modification. The lead of the Clitoris enlargement article should have never started off attributing the term clitoris enlargement to only body modification, if people, such as Behemoth, are going to take that to be the only definition and completely disregard, downplay or misrepresent the other definitions.

Behemoth did readd mention about deliberately induced clitoris enlargement being referred to as clitoromegaly, but that is not WP:LEAD material because it's not covered lower in the article, and the lead neglects that unintentional clitoris enlargement (such as the aforementioned masturbation cause, or women who use testosterone for therapeutic reasons, which are mentioned lower in the article) may also be referred to as clitoromegaly or more accurately as pseudoclitoromegaly. Therefore, I propose that the "deliberately induced clitoris enlargement" material be moved from the lead and moved back to the lower body of the article, or that at least a minor mention about the aforementioned unintentional clitoris enlargement be added to the lead. This discussion is also obviously about the Clitoris enlargement article (I'm keeping the discussion in one place), and so I propose that the inaccurate material in that article about clitoris enlargement not meaning clitoromegaly be removed; it's contradictory to what the lead of this article currently states anyway.

On a side note: As will be obvious to most members of WP:MED, who I will ask to weigh in on this topic, better WP:MEDRS sources, meaning systematic reviews and up-to-date information, are needed for these articles. Flyer22 (talk) 00:17, 25 May 2013 (UTC)