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Things to do

Lots more to add to theories regarding function of crying.
Evolution of the mechanism for emotional crying - what fitness advantage? helping behaviour from others?

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Moving the article

This really belongs under crying since there are really not a single substantiated claim that animals weep. The links listed in the current disambiguation page are nowhere near as intuitive as this meaning.

Peter ^Isotalo 10:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, i'd agree with moving to crying. Nk.sheridan Talk 18:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Move. —Wknight94 (talk) 10:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Crying in humans → crying — The content of this article is primary meaning of the "crying". —Peter ^Isotalo 09:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

Support per nom. Animals don't cry and other meanings are derivative. — AjaxSmack 06:30, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - per nom. Other animals not thought to cry (i.e. emotional crying). Nk.sheridan Talk 17:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Crying in humans is clearly the primary meaning of "crying". Wilhelm meis (talk) 02:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

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Crying Image

In reading the description of Image:Frenchman_weeps_as_the_French_troops_leave_Toulon,_June_1940.JPEG- it states "it is unsure if the scene was really shot on location or if it was later restaged in studios." I think an actual confirmed depiction of crying should be used in its place. I suggest, Image:Crying-girl.jpg, which is used in the tears article. Additionally, it shows tears from crying, where as the current picture does not. Cheers, AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 16:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've changed it. Nk.sheridan Talk 23:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Improving article

Hi, I've been working on an improved version in my userspace. Although, I've not done much recently! If any wants to assist or copy stuff from it please go ahead. It's here. I've also listed some useful articles that I've found here. Cheers, Nk.sheridan Talk 00:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Crying when extremely happy

I wouldn't say that people either cry when sad or when "extremely happy," often people cry when they are "touched," which is a complex emotion hard to define but I would certainly say "touched" != "extremely happy." (That's "is not equal to" for those of you either not familiar with code or for you VB coders.) ;) 66.235.43.182 (talk) 08:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you're commenting on this addition "While crying is most often associated with negative emotions (such as sadness), many people may also cry when extremely happy (i.e. tears of joy)."

I'm not extremely happy with it either. Crying is defined as just a response to an emotional state. That state could be sadness, being "touched", happiness, frustration, pain, etc. I'll remove the addition. Nk.sheridan Talk 21:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 I wouldn't say that people either cry when sad or when "extremely happy," often people cry when they are "touched," which is a complex emotion hard to define but I would certainly say "touched" != "extremely happy."  (That's "is not equal to" for those of you either not familiar with code or for you VB coders.)  ;) [[Special:Contributions/66.235.43.182|66.235.43.182]] ([[User talk:66.235.43.182|talk]]) 08:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
+:I guess you're commenting on this addition ''"While crying is most often associated with negative emotions (such as sadness), many people may also cry when extremely happy (i.e. tears of joy)."''
+:I'm not extremely happy with it either. Crying is defined as just a response to an emotional state. That state could be sadness, being "touched", happiness, frustration, pain, etc. I'll remove the addition. [[User:Nk.sheridan|<font style="background: #C0C0C0" face="Times New Roman" color="#0047AB">'''Nk.sheridan'''</font>]] &nbsp; [[User Talk:Nk.sheridan|<font style="background: #F0F8FF" face="Times New Roman" color="#708090">''Talk''</font>]] 21:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)