Talk:Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz: Difference between revisions

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Good USA and bad Poles, the world is simple. I'm a racist and Boodlesthecat is an expert to teach me how good people should help Jews (eg. sending SS St. Louis back to Europe like the powerful US government did). What is the expertise of Thane Rosenbaum in contemporary Polish matters? [[User:Xx236|Xx236]] ([[User talk:Xx236|talk]]) 08:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Good USA and bad Poles, the world is simple. I'm a racist and Boodlesthecat is an expert to teach me how good people should help Jews (eg. sending SS St. Louis back to Europe like the powerful US government did). What is the expertise of Thane Rosenbaum in contemporary Polish matters? [[User:Xx236|Xx236]] ([[User talk:Xx236|talk]]) 08:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
[[Ghetto benches]] seem to be more important than [[Numerus clausus]] in the USA. Why? Because Poles are worse than WASPs?[[User:Xx236|Xx236]] ([[User talk:Xx236|talk]]) 08:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
[[Ghetto benches]] seem to be more important than [[Numerus clausus]] in the USA. Why? Because Poles are worse than WASPs?[[User:Xx236|Xx236]] ([[User talk:Xx236|talk]]) 08:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

:Great, another rant. Your point is what? [[User:Boodlesthecat|Boodlesthecat]] <sup>''[[User talk:Boodlesthecat|Meow?]]''</sup> 12:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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I will be back to completer this page. Elan26

I strongly recommend against a chapter by chapter synopsis. Have a look at some other book articles for a more appropriate structure. --DanielRigal (talk) 22:45, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
thank you. Elan26 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elan26 (talkcontribs) 01:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Polish edition

The Polish edition has been changed, I don't know how much.Xx236 (talk) 13:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

is a nation cursed by absence

What is the reason to quote any POV by anyone?Xx236 (talk) 11:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disruptive activity by User:Boodlesthecat / reason for POV

I am too old to be provoked to take part in edit war, so I prefer to state my reasons rather over here - regarding disruptive activity of an user User:Boodlesthecat who didn't contributed to this article nothing new or of essence but non-essentials regarding for example heritage of a newspaper editor while removing consistently scholar sources. See this - his last edition. Prof. Thane Rosenbaum represents here nothing else but newspaper policy, in this case Los Angeles Times, or maybe his views as novelist or observations as private citizen, not any academic institution. According to WP guidelines in respect to notability, the scholar sources outweigh newspaper editorials, so why remove Princeton University official site in the form of above mentioned Princeton University Press report, which contains much more info than present reference, and replace it by some local paper editorial written by the person with an obvious grudge against Poland. The idea of the application of collective guilt has long time ago been abandoned since Sonderweg even in retrospect to Germany, now someone wants to sell it again in retrospect to Poland for some reason or other. Fear is already cheap propaganda shot - so far acknowledged only by media policy and Gross' employer. So why someone tries to hide it, afraid of truth? Wikipedia is not a place to peddle anti-semitism in places where currently there is none. greg park avenue (talk) 17:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand the bulk of your rambling post, not do I appreciate your accusations of "disruption." In any case, the source of the quote was the LA Times, and that is what is sourced. There is no need to put a needless link to Pricneton University. I have no idea what is "disruptive" or "POV" about that. Please refrain from such accusations. Boodlesthecat Meow? 18:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So, after stripping the content in question from another evidence leaving only rant of Thane Rosenbaum (son of holocaust survivors), even if there is nothing about it in his article, you play the fool pretending that you don't understand. Now nobody understands, see one section up. Most males in certain age and of European descent including myself are sons of holocaust survivors, still only few carry it as a trademark. A miserable way to win credibility and make a living. You also should be ashamed for littering Wikipedia with this trash. greg park avenue (talk) 22:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(Note that the above is a refactored version of greg park avenue's original antisemitic rant.) Boodlesthecat Meow? 00:10, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note that accusing other editors of "antisemitism rant" is a violation of WP:NPA. Please stop attacking Greg and reply to his post in a constructive manner.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Posting antisemitic rants violates far more Wikipedia guidelines. And the heading greg park avenue chose for this section is a violation of WP:NPA. Boodlesthecat Meow? 00:16, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
User Boodlesthecat has already been warned about calling anti-Semites those contributors he disagrees with. Seems like it is the easiest way for him to cut short a discussion. Tymek (talk) 02:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Replacing scholarly sources by newspaper trash is disruption. Calling me names for pointing this out is another violation. Removing POV template without solving the POV question is also against Wikipedia policy. Three misdemeanors so far in less than 24 hrs. greg park avenue (talk) 02:12, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Using the publisher's website as a source for a book review published in a major newspaper when the newspaper source is available makes no sense. Read WP:RS. Calling an article "POV" because you don't like what a reliable source (a book review by a notable writer published in a major newspaper) is a gross misuse of a POV tag. POV tags are not to be used simply because you don't like what a reliable source says. So please spend less time ranting and making bogus accusations of "disruptive activity" and more time reading Wikipedia guidelines. Boodlesthecat Meow? 02:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fear wasn't published by Princeton University Press but by Random House. Besides this source you have removed twice stays in direct reference to the text edited above about New York Times, Los Angeles Times and few more, Baltimore Sun I guess, which are sourceless. Maybe read the article first before you start editing. greg park avenue (talk) 02:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

<---Incorrect. Published 2006, Princeton University Press. ISBN:0691128782. If you want to quote from other reviews cited on the publishers website, feel free. Just source them to the respective newspapers, not the publishers website. Boodlesthecat Meow? 03:06, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good USA and bad Poles, the world is simple. I'm a racist and Boodlesthecat is an expert to teach me how good people should help Jews (eg. sending SS St. Louis back to Europe like the powerful US government did). What is the expertise of Thane Rosenbaum in contemporary Polish matters? Xx236 (talk) 08:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC) Ghetto benches seem to be more important than Numerus clausus in the USA. Why? Because Poles are worse than WASPs?Xx236 (talk) 08:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great, another rant. Your point is what? Boodlesthecat Meow? 12:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]