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Current flag

There is a discrepency between Wikipedia's and the CIA Factbook's description and portrayal of the current Afghan flag. Which one is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.16.135 (talk) 19:13, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The discrepancy still exists. The article shows the emblem totally inside the red band, but the CIA World Factbook says the emblem slightly overlaps the other two bands. The only reference cited in the article, flagspot.net, agrees with the CIA. On the other hand, www.afghanembassy.com.pl agrees with Wikipedia. 24.91.84.117 (talk) 18:47, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Although it's an artistic representation, the banner on http://wj.parliament.af/ suggests that the emblem is within the red band. Nextrelease (talk) 16:42, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know the correct vertical display of the flag? The vertical display is covered in many country/state map articles but not this article. The common practice of rotating the flag on the upper left corner would place the writing on the flag of Afghanistan backwards. 24.91.84.117 (talk) 18:47, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The London 2012 IOC flag supplement shows the decoration entirely within the center band. I might suggest updating the design using the IOC document as source, except this article also suggests that the flag changed in 2013, so even the London 2012 source may just be outdated. This FotW AF History page has the "current" flag design going back to 2004, but most notably the editorial note at the very bottom of that page that says, "I can't help wondering if some of these don't simply reflect either errors in observation by contemporary (non-vexillologically oriented) observers or irregularities in production." Ultimately, the flag here on Wikipedia looks wrong in that it doesn't match ANY source I've been able to find. Every overlap-showing source shows the wheat partly overlapping the colors, where this article shows the wheat almost entirely outside of the center band. Given this, I'd suggest using the CIA FactBook site as the best source. Vollink (talk) 02:23, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I’m new here, anyone able to change the Taliban flag back to the Afghan flag? BoroGhoomsho (talk) 16:31, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Which flag to show at the top of the infobox

I understand this is currently a hot topic, and is in flux, but perhaps rather than having dozens of the same edit requests there should be some discussion on which flag is used. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:26, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@ScottishFinnishRadishPlease just make it like Syria Mhatopzz (talk) 05:30, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mhatopzz, the difference between Syria and Afghanistan is the de-facto ruling government is the Taliban, so they're not really the opposition. We still display the deposed government's flag in the infobox. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:56, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, make it into two sections Mhatopzz (talk) 12:00, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2021

The flag displayed is the wrong one. The flag of Afghanistan is not white, it is a black, red and green flag. Afghans will never accept that white flag especially since it belongs to a terrorist group. BoroGhoomsho (talk) 16:29, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

. BoroGhoomsho (talk) 16:29, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:33, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The only source I see dealing with a flag is this, which shows them flying a completely different flag than the one shown in this article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:50, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I also think that including that flag is completely WP:UNDUE, as it's not the flag for the country itself, it's maybe a flag used by a resistance group. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:33, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Colour version of the (old?) flag

According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Afghanistan, a flag with a colour version of the emblem formally exists (existed) - Quistnix (talk) 21:43, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Current Afghan flag?

Is there any official announcement about flag from the current government yet? There seems to be contradicting news and even violence in places like Jalalabad and Kabul etc [1]. Khestwol (talk) 11:01, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There has been no official announcement. There has been no announcement mentioning a flag at all. There was a vaguely flag-like graphic posted by a Taliban official, and people largely assumed it was a flag. Strong request for removal of the graphic from the page until the assumption is deemed to have an inkling of truth. Horizons_1 (talk) 17:00, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for double-checking this. I've blanked d:Q108153802 and undone links to it until some new flag can be corroborated more rigorously. – Minh Nguyễn 💬 19:30, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Has one been corroborated by now?--Aréat (talk) 18:50, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Dubious

Noticed someone re-added the image graphic accompanying a Taliban announcement on Twitter. The image used here on this page is a duplicate of this other image that is already a candidate for deletion. For transparency purposes, I was the one to nominate its deletion. I'm going to replace the duplicate with the earlier upload that's nominated for deletion rather than removing it entirely, as the "dubious" notice is placed next to it. Please do not consider this as a vote for leaving it on the page at all. Horizons 1 (talk) 17:26, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2021

Hi Dear! We have removed the terrorist group of Taliban flag Because the Taliban is a terrorist group that has taken over Afghanistan by force and is not approved by the Afghan people and the international community. Since Wikipedia is popular with the people of Afghanistan and the world, they should not support terrorists and bullies. We have replaced the main flag of Afghanistan to support the people of Afghanistan who are not accepted Taliban as their government. Please do not support this terrorist group and approve our editing.

Thank you on behalf of the oppressed people of Afghanistan Mostafa.khavari71 (talk) 11:34, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. We are not supporting one group over another, merely reporting the information in reliable sources. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:42, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Hi- new here, so apologies for my ignorance in the process. I still see the terrorist flag instead of the actual, world-recognized, (Green, Black, and Red) Afghan flag. Can someone please help update this? The flag currently depicted is not in line with reality and is highly offensive to all Afghan people worldwide. 19:35, 27 August 2021 (UTC) Jesuskwice (talk) 19:39, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Archives are bogus

The archived talk page linked from near the top of this page only starts in August 2021. What happened to all the discussions before that? AnonMoos (talk) 16:29, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RfC on current flag

Now that consensus has been reached to use only the IEA flag in the Afghanistan article (consensus link), what should be done here?

  • A: Use only the IEA flag, treating the IRA flag as a former flag.
  • B: State that the current flag is disputed between the IEA flag and the IRA flag. ― Tartan357 Talk 09:14, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a third option:

  • C: Treat the IRA flag as a former flag, include the IEA flag, record change of regime, but say no formal announcement has been made to date about its use as a national flag. Pincrete (talk) 16:53, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Option B Add both flags in one single infobox. Treat the IEA flag as the main flag and the IRA flag as a "variant flag" (the infobox will render variant flags a bit smaller than the main flag). Don't just use "disputed" but rather caption/footnote the IRA flag as the flag of a former government which still enjoys international recognition.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 01:21, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • B: For the moment, until there is further resolution of the countries status (and flag). Deathlibrarian (talk) 07:15, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • B. Still no official announcement from Afghanistan. Khestwol (talk) 10:42, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Here's a source: [2]. ― Tartan357 Talk 00:15, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • B, pending an official announcement by Afghanistan. Idealigic (talk) 19:34, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]