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– The lowercase "etc" in the novel title is contrary to normal title formatting guidelines. Regardless of whether the second move is done, the difference in formatting between the song and novel titles is a triviality, so disambiguate the song title and redirect [[Love Etc.]] to the disambiguation page [[Love, etc.]]. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 17:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC) |
– The lowercase "etc" in the novel title is contrary to normal title formatting guidelines. Regardless of whether the second move is done, the difference in formatting between the song and novel titles is a triviality, so disambiguate the song title and redirect [[Love Etc.]] to the disambiguation page [[Love, etc.]]. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 17:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC) |
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* '''Oppose'''. In what way is it contrary, and to what exactly? "Etc." doesn't appear to fit into any of the categories for which [[MOS:TITLECAPS]] says to use lower case. It's a contraction of Latin {{lang|la|et cetera}}, in which {{lang|la|et}} is a conjunction ('and'), but as a unitary term "etc." is not a conjunction, and is also not a preposition or any of the other listed lower-case-'em things. And it is also fully assimilated into English, not a foreignism like the equivalent German {{lang|de|und so weiter}} (abbreviated {{lang|de|usw.}}), so there is no "do what is done in the original foreign language with this sort of term" consideration here. Perhaps more importantly than any of that, there's also the issue that the same guideline says to capitalize first and last words in a title (and English-language one, anyway), no matter what they are, so even if this had no Latinism and was something like a truncated "Love And" (as the entire title), it would be rendered with "And" not "and". <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 06:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Requested move 15 April 2024
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– The lowercase "etc" in the novel title is contrary to normal title formatting guidelines. Regardless of whether the second move is done, the difference in formatting between the song and novel titles is a triviality, so disambiguate the song title and redirect Love Etc. to the disambiguation page Love, etc.. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. In what way is it contrary, and to what exactly? "Etc." doesn't appear to fit into any of the categories for which MOS:TITLECAPS says to use lower case. It's a contraction of Latin et cetera, in which et is a conjunction ('and'), but as a unitary term "etc." is not a conjunction, and is also not a preposition or any of the other listed lower-case-'em things. And it is also fully assimilated into English, not a foreignism like the equivalent German und so weiter (abbreviated usw.), so there is no "do what is done in the original foreign language with this sort of term" consideration here. Perhaps more importantly than any of that, there's also the issue that the same guideline says to capitalize first and last words in a title (and English-language one, anyway), no matter what they are, so even if this had no Latinism and was something like a truncated "Love And" (as the entire title), it would be rendered with "And" not "and". — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)