Talk:Paleolibertarianism

Rothbard and Religion

While everything said here holds true of Lew Rockwell, Rothbard was not as religious as this entry would suggest. While he did himself believe in God and he worked very closely with Lew, none of his writing with which I am familiar would suggest that he viewed religion as necessary for social order. I'm leaving the article alone for now because I'm not quite sure how to work this in. --dfranke

While from his writing I can tell he believes in God, I am curious what religion he was.(if any) I know he was born into a Jewish family but I get the impression he was, for lack of a better term, generically Christian? I know this is a little off topic but I could use some help user:Pzg Ratzinger —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 01:58, August 25, 2007 (UTC).

Old Republic

As it stands, Old Republic redirects to Galactic Republic (Star Wars). I'm pretty sure that Lew Rockwell wasn't referring to Star Wars. Can somebody who knows something about paleolibertarianism and Lew Rockwell fix this issue? —thames 00:33, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

It's a reference to the lost constitution or the constitution in exile. I'm linking it there unless someone has a better idea. Thanks for the heads-up. Dave (talk) 00:57, May 7, 2005 (UTC)

Simple. I've just changed it so that "Old Republic" now links to "constitution in exile". Problem solved. —Per Hedetun (talk) 20:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Utilitarianism

Rothbard was a utilitarian. In general, some paleolobs are "hostile" to utilitarianism, but that shouldn't be listed here as a defining characteristic! --Christofurio 13:11, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Rothbard wasn't a utilitarian. He did believe that anarcho-capitalism would lead to the best society, but he based his philosophy off natural law. See "For a New Liberty". 66.116.18.114 03:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Rothbard

Paleolibertarianism, at least as described in this article, seems to be the general ideology of Lew Rockwell and the folks at lewrockwell.com. This is not especially characteristic of Rothbard, therefore, I'm removing/proposing to remove references to him such as they now are. Bob A 04:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

That is simply untrue. Lewrockwell.com was the successor of the "Rothbard Rockwell Report," and if lewrockwell.com is dedicated to the legacy of any man it is rothbard.

Furthermore, Rothbard called himself a paleolibertarian on many occasions, and his piece "Ron Paul and his enemies" is probably one of the major original pieces to paleolibertarianism before it came out. here is a prime example http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch16.html

walmart

I deleted the mention of walmart from this sentence... "Political alliances with paleoconservatism. The two groups are closely related, although they sometimes quarrel over the virtues of free trade, Wal-Mart and other issues.'

Better ways to organize description

Rather than have a section starting: "Paleolibertarianism is commonly distinguished by:" where I put the tag "original research?", either a) include references for each point or b) have section on what each person means by it. Carol Moore 00:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)CarolMooreDC talk

I drank a lot of coffee this am and ended up cleaning up this totally WP:original research article that contained constant claims articles were about paleolibertarianism when that phrase not uses. Plus lots of WP:BLP violations because there were no WP:RS that people did or do call themselves paleolibs. Feel free to put back info with WP:RS of articles mentioning the word or actual descriptions of people calling themselves paleo libs. Same old bad info will just get deleted. There are just too many misleading WP:OR libertarianism articles with few or no WP:RS so I took advantage of sudden motivation in my caffeinated state to clean this up. Now I'll go back to researching dirt for Rahm Emanuel article - unless others hopefully get there first. :-) Carol Moore 17:12, 7 November 2008 (UTC)Carolmooredc

Anarcho-capitalism

This is definitely a ridiculous claim, at least as Wikipedia currently defines the term: "While practically all paleolibertarians subscribe to a philosophy of anarcho-capitalism [...]" 68.83.72.162 (talk) 15:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

agree and removed. too contentious without a source. CarolMooreDC (talk) 11:35, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Critiques?

For this article to bear any resemblance to NPOV, some part of it must contain responses to paleolibertarianism from people other than libertarians. the criticism from Hans-Hermann Hoppe hardly counts. and, if there is no critique from third parties, then the word is a nonencyclopedic neologism. i hope someone other than me can add some critiques to this, or even positive comments from nonlibertarians. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:59, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Feel free to find and put in some WP:RS info :-) !CarolMooreDC (talk) 05:02, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Federic Bastiat's Influence on Paleolibertarianism and/or Ludwig Von Mises

This would go a long way in debunking Mises supposedly Old Right economics. Some speculate Ludwig Von Mises was ambivalent about socialism versus free capitalism. Mises correctly uses the word capitalism as the use of capital, and states ambivalently that communists were merely capitalists who employed the state. I believe Mises was interested in innovation and effeciency in different market systems. --173.31.191.192 (talk) 18:31, 10 March 2010 (UTC)