Talk:Republika Srpska

An article intended to represent reality or touristic promotion?

The RS is poor, among the lowest GDPs in Europe, a fact. Why then does one receive the impression that the infrastructure is highly developed and living standards high by looking at the photos included into the article? It is obvious then that they constitute an attempt to portray the RS as more charming and enticing than what it is, i.e. touristic promotion of a developmental country with developmental living standards. It is misleading and the cities of RS should be presented in photos that are representative of the living conditions, which are unfortunately among the worst in Europe and Bosnia. Hence, I hereby declare my intention to change a large part of the current photos for more representative ones. I would appreciate help. / Dragan — Preceding unsigned comment added by DraganNiksic (talk • contribs) 10:12, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Photo section

Who take care of this thread? Why photo of Milorad Dodik is removed? Why there are not photos of Monastery of Dobrun, ethno village Stanisic and some other goods of the Republic of Srpska? Extend this thread but good way!109.121.39.201 (talk) 17:14, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Lists, demographics, and verifiability

Sadly, lots of our articles on the human geography of the Balkans have a problem; people change numbers around. Even apparently-sourced numbers sometimes disagree with what the source says. We have that problem here. This is supposed to be an encyclopædia; we shouldn't be serving content to readers if it can't be trusted, so I tried to remove it. It is unfortunate that this edit got reverted even though some of the numbers don't match what the source says. If anybody else is able to build accurate sourced content without adult supervision, then I would welcome it, but just lazily hitting the revert button to add stuff which isn't true is a Bad Thing. bobrayner (talk) 18:09, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Sources overkill

There is no requirement to remove lists of settlements presented on account of the fact that there is "no source". This page is about an entity and the population listings support the entity but no reader needs a complete list of citations for each town size. It merely clutters the article with information not directly concerning the subject. You simply wikilink the items and the reader can follow the lead for himself, and anyone who discovers a wrong entry per sources on the article, well he can change those parts when required. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 11:45, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

If you want to reinsert just a list of settlements without populations, that's fine by me; or fix the errors. I don't really care which. However, deliberately reinserting stuff with factual errors, like this, is a Bad Thing. Interestingly, FKPCascais uses the edit summary "Fix them then... or go to talk... don´t edit war", which is difficult to reconcile with FkpCascais' actions: Repeated reinsertion of factual errors, whilst refusing to ether fix it or participate on the talkpage. Just another day in the Balkans... bobrayner (talk) 15:19, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I think we should just stick to what the sources say. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 22:22, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

The entire section is sourced by this source which is found in the intro of the section. I couldn´t understand well what Bobrayner problem is, but if he spoted some numers different from the source, well, he can allways correct them, rather then removing the hole section. That was my only point. Beside, if any more sources are needed, perhaps for specific cities or towns, they can allways be brought here. However, removing an entire sourced section is a no-no. Best regards to all FkpCascais (talk) 02:43, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

My only genuine issue is that it certainly needs cleaning up, a proper table supplied, etc. and if figures are inacurate, well they can easily be changed. No single editor is delibrately pushing for town populations to be wrong to conceal their NPOV violations (eg. claiming the non-existing Serbian army carried out operations in Kosovo 1999 and putting this in place of the Yugoslav army). It's a funny old world. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 10:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

If the information can easily be corrected, then perhaps you could correct it, instead of tag-teaming to restore text which you know is false. You're both experienced editors; how on earth can you still believe it's acceptable to hammer the revert button and reintroduce such a basic problem into articles? Connecting this problem - the wrong populations of towns - to the naming of forces in Kosovo in 1999 is an obvious non-sequiteur. Putting crap in this article just because you're angry about different crap in different articles is a perfect example of disruptive, WP:POINTy editing. bobrayner (talk) 17:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

On the contrary, I simply believe we should stick to what the sources say. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 18:35, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Yet you deliberately introduce content which disagrees with sources. Why? bobrayner (talk) 19:16, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

When it comes to population figures, even the welter of sources themselves are at odds. If you can show me which source you are using then I have no problem with filling in the numbers per that citation. Large areas covering multiple towns and cities need a guide to report sizes of settlements and most pages have them. Many are well presented such as the Macedonian entry[1]. I see no reason we cannot do the same here. As for figures not matching exactly those listed on the source at the top of the section, no user is satisfied as to why the person who spots this does not rectify the problem but instead wipes the entire section. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 19:26, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

There is a source. You inserted numbers which contradicted that source. That's a Bad Thing. I removed numbers which contradicted the source; that's a Good Thing. It's very simple. Seriously, this is supposed to be an encyclopædia, not a race to create as much worthless text is possible. If you want to add stuff, it's your responsibility to make sure that it's right, instead of leaving a trail of factual errors and then criticising the people who try to clean up the mess. bobrayner (talk)