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Lowercase all parameters?

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Wouldn't it be best to lowercase all the parameters in this template, so that capitalization isn't an issue? Since Template:TFA title/June 19, 2010 uses "choral symphony" when {{PAGENAME}} will return "Choral symphony"? Gary King (talk) 19:06, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch!
I'll ask the Anomie first whether he can get the page names into a canonized form, so that all other users of the template get the clean title as well.
FWIW, ignoring capitalization would be a bit too much, but wrapping it like {{FULLPAGENAME:{{TFA title}}}} would canonize most titles.
Thanks, Amalthea 19:16, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request on 8 March 2016

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Add {{#ifexist:{{FULLPAGENAME}}||{{#ifexist:Draft:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|{{Hatnote|There exists a draft for this article at [[Draft:{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]}}|}}}}. The message would be displayed whenever someone is creating an article for which a draft already exists. Such a message is already shown on MediaWiki:Noarticletext (see edit request) but I think this is required here too because whenever a registered user clicks on a red link or enters the name of an inexistent article into the search box, they are directly taken to the page creation interface; they never pass through MediaWiki:Noarticletext at all. Ultimately, the aim is to improve the discoverability of existing drafts.

103.6.159.68 (talk) 14:04, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tweak: Good rationale, but, pending discussion at Template talk:No article text over the phrasing, I'd prefer this use the simpler "is" rather than "exists" and that (regardless of whether "is" or "exists" is chosen) the two messages match. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 15:37, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. It won't deal with all the cases, but it will help somewhat. I think there's agreement to use the simpler "is" DGG ( talk ) 19:17, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done. The effect can be seen at Gian Francesco di San Giorgio Biandrate Aldobrandini. I would prefer to put the message in {{fmbox}} rather than {{hatnote}} for consistency with other edit notices. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:10, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 26 February 2017

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REQUEST: Display an edit notice to all new/unconfirmed users editing a page. I think it's a good idea to display an edit notice to registered, unconfirmed users that they are, in fact, editing Wikipedia. This will reduce the amount of test edits and unconstructive additions by new users. I've made a draft of this template at Template:Notice newuser. I also proposed this at the Village Pump; User:Xaosflux said that with some "CSS hacks" it could be rendered invisible for autoconfirmed/confirmed users. (I don't know where to ask about getting those into place, possibly at the "Technical" village pump.) MereTechnicality ⚙ 03:55, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: the .css hacks have NOT been built yet! (c.f. MediaWiki:Group-autoconfirmed.css, MediaWiki:Common.css) — xaosflux ^Talk 04:46, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is a good idea, but there are a few things to consider before implementing this. We should be especially careful to encourage good faith users to edit, discouraging bad faith users to edit is secondary. Template:Notice Anti-vandalism was designed for pages with a long history of vandalism, so for a small subset of articles. In contrast, this would apply to all articles. Currently it is too long and emphasizes vandalism too much. This should be closer to Template:TFA-editnotice. We should also probably use a different wording on pending changes protected pages as the edit will not actually go love immediately. I'll make the necessary technical modifications and suggest wording changes. Cenarium (talk) 08:27, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the technical changes and brought the wording closer to that of the TFA editnotice, let me know what you think. Cenarium (talk) 09:02, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think it looks good. You're right about it accidentally discouraging new users, the wording change is a lot less bitey. MereTechnicality ⚙ 16:28, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So what now? Should I ask for consensus? And if so, where? MereTechnicality ⚙ 22:01, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Since this will affect a lot of people, I think we should be careful and wait to see if there are still improvements to be made. You could post a notice at WP:VPR asking for people to comment here. I'll also ping MusikAnimal and Kaldari who worked on the new page creation notice in case they have suggestions. Cenarium (talk) 16:09, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Another proposition: a special edit notice for new page creation by unconfirmed users, saying that page creation is hard and to direct them to the article wizard as well as relevant guidelines (like BLP, notability, verifiability). MereTechnicality ⚙ 22:11, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is already one, see Template:Newarticletext-unconfirmed. Cenarium (talk) 16:09, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::I think it looks good. You're right about it accidentally discouraging new users, the wording change is a lot less bitey. [[User:MereTechnicality|<span style="color:teal;">MereTechnicality</span>]]<small> [[User talk:MereTechnicality|<span style="color:green;">⚙</span>]]</small> 16:28, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 ::So what now? Should I ask for consensus? And if so, where? [[User:MereTechnicality|<span style="color:teal;">MereTechnicality</span>]]<small> [[User talk:MereTechnicality|<span style="color:green;">⚙</span>]]</small> 22:01, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
+:::Since this will affect a lot of people, I think we should be careful and wait to see if there are still improvements to be made. You could post a notice at [[WP:VPR]] asking for people to comment here. I'll also ping {{u|MusikAnimal}} and {{u|Kaldari}} who worked on the new page creation notice in case they have suggestions. [[User:Cenarium|Cenarium]] ([[User talk:Cenarium|talk]]) 16:09, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
 ::Another proposition: a special edit notice for new page creation by unconfirmed users, saying that page creation is hard and to direct them to the article wizard as well as relevant guidelines (like BLP, notability, verifiability). [[User:MereTechnicality|<span style="color:teal;">MereTechnicality</span>]]<small> [[User talk:MereTechnicality|<span style="color:green;">⚙</span>]]</small> 22:11, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
+:::There is already one, see [[Template:Newarticletext-unconfirmed]]. [[User:Cenarium|Cenarium]] ([[User talk:Cenarium|talk]]) 16:09, 27 February 2017 (UTC)