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==Bad-faith accusation of forum-shopping==
==John Carter ANI draft (just in case an apology for the patently false forum-shopping/sockpuppetry allegations isn't forthcoming)==


Recently I brought Catflap08 to ANI for various problems. The thread went nowhere due in part to {{User|John Carter}} ignoring ehat I said and posting a series of non sequiturs. He asserted that it was a content dispute (it wasn't) and should go to DRN, and then started claimit already was under discussion on DRN and that I was forum-shopping.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=649453968][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=649554398][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=649730213] This was news to me, even though I had initiated that dispute by reverting an edit Catflap had made in December. I checked DRN and found a thread on [[Daisaku Ikeda|another Japanese Buddhist whose article Catflap08 had edited]]. I [[WP:AGF |assumed]] an honest mistake, as John Carter had [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=649459542 claimed] to be an American ignorant of Japanese Buddhism. He repeated the accusations despite being told he was mistaken.
Recently I started an ANI thread on [[User:Catflap]]. {{User|John Carter}} asserted it was a content dispute and should go to DRN, and then started claiming it already ''was'' under discussion on DRN and that I was forum-shopping.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=649453968][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=649554398][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=649730213] This was not true. I checked DRN and found [[WP:DRN#Daisaku Ikeda|an unrelated thread]] involving Catflap08. I [[WP:AGF|assumed]] an honest mistake, as he[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=649459542 posted] what looked like a claim to ignorance of the area (Japanese Buddhism). He ignored me when I informed him that the DRN thread was on an unrelated topic.


Then I noticed John Carter had [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py?user1=John%20Carter&user2=Catflap08&user3=&startdate=20140101&enddate=&ns= collaborated with Catflap08] in this area several times. John Carter appears to be one of the few users who Catflap08 hasn't conflicted with.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Carter&diff=prev&oldid=644293679][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Carter&diff=prev&oldid=649258808] John Carter's experience editing articles on Nichiren Buddhism, and his repeated refusal to retract the accusation, implies not a good-faith mistake but a deliberate attack on me to defend his friend.
Then I noticed John Carter had [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py?user1=John%20Carter&user2=Catflap08&user3=&startdate=20140101&enddate=&ns= collaborated with Catflap08] in this area several times. He appears to be one of the few users Catflap08 doesn't dislike.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Carter&diff=prev&oldid=644293679][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Carter&diff=prev&oldid=649258808] His experience editing articles on Japanese Buddhism, and his refusal to retract the accusation, implies not a good-faith mistake but a deliberate false accusation against me to defend his friend. He was also accusing me of bringing an active DRN discussion to ANI despite being clearly aware that [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive873#User/Admin Hoary|his friend had done just that]] not long before. John Carter accused me of doing the exact thing he was defending Catflap08 for!


I want a retraction of the false accusations, and if he still refuses I'd like an IBAN between us. Otherwise, when Catflap08 repeats his disruptive behaviour<!-- Not an assumption of bad faith -- he's repeated the same pattern three or four times on the same article already -->, I can' t be sure John Carter won't jump in to rescue his friend by posting nonsense accusations against me once again.
Also, John Carter was accusing me of bringing an active DRN discussion to ANI, something he was clearly aware that [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive873#User/Admin Hoary|Catflap08 had actually done]] not long before, about which point John Carter was also silent.

I want a retraction of the false accusations, and if he still refuses I'd like an IBAN between us. Otherwise, when Catflap08 inevitably repeats his disruptive behaviour<!-- Not an assumption of bad faith -- he's repeated the same pattern three or four times on the same article already -->, I can' t be sure John Carter won't jump in to rescue his friend by posting nonsense accusations against me once again.

Revision as of 10:03, 5 March 2015

Once the following users have all been investigated and sockpuppets blocked, the WP:FRINGE, WP:SYNTH-infested WP:POVFORK article Korean influence on Japanese culture will be taken to AFD. All the sources in it are either unreliable fringe works, or reliable sources that are being quoted out of context to promote the fringe POV that all or most of Japanese culture originated in Korea.

Potential anti-Korean POV-pushing SPAs?

Apparent pro-Korean (anti-Japanese) POV-pushing SPAs

???

Users who appear to have the right idea

Bad-faith accusation of forum-shopping

Recently I started an ANI thread on User:Catflap. John Carter (talk · contribs) asserted it was a content dispute and should go to DRN, and then started claiming it already was under discussion on DRN and that I was forum-shopping.[14][15][16] This was not true. I checked DRN and found an unrelated thread involving Catflap08. I assumed an honest mistake, as heposted what looked like a claim to ignorance of the area (Japanese Buddhism). He ignored me when I informed him that the DRN thread was on an unrelated topic.

Then I noticed John Carter had collaborated with Catflap08 in this area several times. He appears to be one of the few users Catflap08 doesn't dislike.[17][18] His experience editing articles on Japanese Buddhism, and his refusal to retract the accusation, implies not a good-faith mistake but a deliberate false accusation against me to defend his friend. He was also accusing me of bringing an active DRN discussion to ANI despite being clearly aware that his friend had done just that not long before. John Carter accused me of doing the exact thing he was defending Catflap08 for!

I want a retraction of the false accusations, and if he still refuses I'd like an IBAN between us. Otherwise, when Catflap08 repeats his disruptive behaviour, I can' t be sure John Carter won't jump in to rescue his friend by posting nonsense accusations against me once again.