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New Page Review - Newsletter No.4

Hello Fyddlestix,

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So why do you use a gadget to revert edits automatically?

That's all I'm asking. Oppashi (talk) 12:11, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

@Oppashi: That is twinkle, it's not automatic it just makes reverting easier/faster. I ought to have left a better edit summary there, but basically the edit you made is not accurate - not everyone who writes or talks about male privilege or patriarchy is a "social justice warrior." Rather, these are mainstream concepts used and understood by a very wide range of academics and writers. Your edit seemed to be rather POV. Fyddlestix (talk) 12:58, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

{Random passerby) If by "rather" you mean "very" then I agree. That's not to say that the edit was POV, but it definitely shouted "POV PUSH!!" at the top of its lungs. The brief edit war over it strongly reinforces this impression. We should not ever use pejorative terms to refer to any group, unless that group has adopted the pejorative term (usually in an attempt to "own" it). This is, of course, in addition to your point about the factual inaccuracy. Hell, even men's rights advocates have examined male privilege alongside the concept of patriarchy. The fact that they came to very different conclusions doesn't change this. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 14:37, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

So I'm right at one point. Not just feminists use that. Oppashi (talk) 21:20, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

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New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello Fyddlestix, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

• The new page backlog is currently at 18,511 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.
• Some editors are committing to work specifically on patrolling new pages on 15 July. If you have not reviewed new pages in a while, this might be a good time to be involved. Please remember that quality of patrolling is more important than quantity, that the speedy deletion criteria should be followed strictly, and that ovetagging for minor issues should be avoided.

Technology update:

• Several requests have been put into Phabractor to increase usability of the New Pages Feed and the Page Curation toolbar. For more details or to suggest improvements go to Wikipedia:Page Curation/Suggested improvements
• The tutorial has been updated to include links to the following useful userscripts. If you were not aware of them, they could be useful in your efforts reviewing new pages:
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A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thanks again for fixing the Southern Strategy article. Seems like it gets "vandalized" on a pretty regular basis. Would it help to try and get it protected? I have been meaning to put some work into it, regardless. DN (talk) 21:17, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for supporting my run for administrator. I am honored and grateful. ) Cullen328 Let's discuss it 21:46, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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Warning...the BLP violations are real

I will revert you one more time, but this article is a hit piece - pure attack page, not a BLP, and if you want to be part of the ANI I'm about to file, keep reverting blatant BLP violations. ^{Atsme📞📧} 02:23, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Go nuts, you're an embarrassment to the project if you think your whitewashing of Jared Taylor is appropriate. You probably should have checked out the massive, ongoing discussions on the article's talk page (and, you know, actually looked at what RS say about Taylor) before jumping into this.... Fyddlestix (talk) 02:43, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Whitewashing? No, I removed blatant BLP-NPOV violations - blatant beyond the shadow of a doubt violations. I don't have a problem quoting and attributing criticism to RS, and including their "opinions" about a BLP, but I'm not going to allow it to be stated as factual in Wiki voice. I'm being compliant with BLP, NPOV by not allowing labels to be attached to living persons just because a group of lawyers don't like the guy. Good gosh, how do you think that man's children feel when they read such derogatory bs about their father in the manner it was presented in an encyclopedia. Have some sensitivy and at least try to follow WP policy: ...written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives... And also: Criticism and praise should be included if they can be sourced to reliable secondary sources, so long as the material is presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone. Do not give disproportionate space to particular viewpoints; There isn't one thing that can be considered responsible, conservative, or disinterested in tone when labeling a person a white supremacist in Wiki voice and sourcing it to an advocacy group of lawyers who make their living disparaging people who have views that don't coincide with their own. ^{Atsme📞📧} 02:56, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Just to illustrate what I mean: you attributed "white supremacist" to the SPLC and removed all other references to it, but the SPLC is not the only group/source that calls him that. He is variously referred to as "a white supremacist/seperatist," a "Virignia White Supremacist," a "major force in white supremacist circles," "one of the leaders" of the white supremacist movement, and "Jared Taylor, a white supremacist" in some of the highest-quality sources on him that I could find. Your edit is WP:FALSEBALANCE at its worst. Fyddlestix (talk) 03:02, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Now to reply to the EC post: Re: sourcing it to an advocacy group of lawyers, your feelings about the SPLC are what's blinding you here - this is very far from "their" view, but rather how a large number of very reliable sources describe Taylor. See the links in my post below for a couple of examples. Other editors have provided still more/better sources at the article talk page, and within the article itself. It seems like you are not familiar with what RS say here. Maybe pause, take a deep breath and actually read something you CRYBLP in defense of someone who is widely recognized as a racist with repugnant views. Fyddlestix (talk) 03:10, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Hell, the freaking NYT describes this guy as "long one of the country’s most prominent white supremacists". Maybe time to get down off that horse you rode in on... Fyddlestix (talk) 03:38, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Seriously? You link to their section "Election 2016" knowing they supported Clinton, and want people to accept the defamatory labels they hang on people? This is an encyclopedia, not the election section of a newspaper during a heated and highly controversial election. I'm sure there are plenty of tabloids and left-leaning newspapers that would love to add (and even pay) editors who will promote their agendas. WP has policies - and any editor who feels that it's encyclopedic to quote the Election section to include a derogatory comment (regardless of who it is), there are policies to follow. You know, not everything that's published by MSM belongs in an encyclopedia, and you certainly don't state opinions as "facts" which is what I removed from that BLP. Move the comment down to a "Reception" section, and use inline text attribution and quote the Times, but don't include it as if it's factual information in Wiki voice. ^{Atsme📞📧} 03:57, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh, so the NYT is WP:BIASED now? You're too funny, but totally not worth wasting time/energy on. Don't post here (on this topic) again, I'm done with you. Fyddlestix (talk) 04:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

So you are seriously saying that the Politics sections of mainstream newspapers are unreliable during election season. Poof! There goes any credibility you once had. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 05:00, 10 August 2017 (UTC)