User talk:ItsPugle

2020 New Zealand election

I have added relevant written sources ie. Newspaper articles from NZ Herald and The Guardian to support the relevant statements, on top of the official data provided. 2002 was Nationals worst ever year, and 2020 was the worst since 2002. Leesjy2k (talk) 08:52, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

I have added numerous other sources to validate what I have just written. Blocking me from editing articles of Wikipedia, is excessive given the written and official sources I have cited. Leesjy2k (talk) 09:28, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

@Leesjy2k: I've replied to you on your talk page. You need to have a good read and think about WP:OR - disruptively refusing to accept policy is sanctionable, primarily to protect the integrity of the project. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 11:33, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

October harvest

treats --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:16, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

The SLPC did not call the Proud Boys white surpremacists

The domain expert language specific SLPC DOES NOT CALL THEM WHITE SUPREMACIST (despite the post in haste to include the SLPC with the Al Jazeeras and the rest so as to lend credibility, clearly misstates their position) and neither does the ADL whom refers to Proud Boys having members of varying ethnicities. The SLPC and ADL not calling them white supremacists is held in significantly higher esteem than the collective group calling them white supremacists.

The actual US Intelligence community. think tanks, the government and law enforcement etc.. rely on the SLPC and ADL and vice versa. If we stick with the ADL and SLPC in the first sentence, first paragraph, top half of the page, the article will be robust enough to stand up to these sorts of challenges which will be endless, possess merit and are largely indefensible. Those two groups are the most respected language specific domain experts available to the public on right wing hate groups. If other source material is not corroborated by or conflicts with those groups it is typically the minority POV(as the majority uses the ADL and SLPC) and is extremely likely to lack credibility.-such as the Proud Boys being labeled fascist and white supremacist. The encyclopedia Britannica doesn't minimize Einstein in favor of elevating articles in Math Rhetoric Weekly. Wikipedia shouldn't be discounting the SLPC and ADL in favor of Rhetoric Weekly, a marxist humanist academic, a misquoted Hosang who labeled them proto fascist or largely the direct opposite of neo fascist, a COI Kutner whom fabricated the term fascist 2.0, an anthropologist and a women's studies teacher. It is one thing to use largely leftist sources, collate a left of center consensus from that and pass it off as NPOV. It is another thing to be factually wrong while acclaiming as encyclopedic.2601:46:C801:B1F0:2D92:A947:910C:C354 (talk) 18:28, 20 November 2020 (UTC)