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2008

Welcome Wikipedian,

Please note down your comments / suggestions / arguments etc here . I will try to respond back as early as possible.

Thanks Tinucherian (talk) 05:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Pakalomattom Ayrookuzhiyil

An article that you have been involved in editing, Pakalomattom Ayrookuzhiyil, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pakalomattom Ayrookuzhiyil. Thank you.

AfD nomination of Pakalomattom

An article that you have been involved in editing, Pakalomattom, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pakalomattom. Thank you.

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It's still not clear that you are releasing the material - you say yourself that you have a copyright notice "to prevent copying" but that you are letting Wikipedia use the text. Wikipedia text is available to be freely reused by anyone in any way (including commercially) and can be modified by them in anyway. So you cannot have this both ways.

Also, the text itself is not encyclopaedic and is written in a tone that does not suit Wikipedia. So it is not something we can use here anyway. ➔ REDVEЯS has changed his plea to guilty 11:47, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I dont understand why different admins have different opinions !! This was accepted by User:Chaser .

Please revert back the changes and Let us open this for discussion .

Tinucherian (talk) 11:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

In addition to all the other problems with the material, including a long section of copyrighted text without any claim of fair use and without a free license is a clear violation of WP:NFCC. There is no way in a million years this material would be acceptable on Wikipedia. The fact that one person who happens to be an administrator took a look and chose not to complain does not give any special status to the article. Copyright violations such as this are generally deleted immediately. Wikidemo (talk) 11:58, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Additionally, the text itself is not encyclopaedic and is written in a tone that does not suit Wikipedia. So it is not something we can use here anyway - as I said above. It cannot be included in the article anyway. ➔ REDVEЯS has changed his plea to guilty 12:01, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Considering the fact that I am the author of the article both at the site and wiki, tell me what changes has to be done for the article to be in wiki.

Tinucherian (talk) 12:03, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Joy Alukkas

User_talk:Redvers#Pakalomattom_Ayrookuzhiyil_and_Joy_Alukkas

The article is well referenced, contains a claim of notability and is not in any way soapboxing, is not covered by WP:NOT and is not WP:SPAM. This and a couple of other AfD nominations were clearly being made in bad faith (childish spite, because your article was nominated), were not formatted correctly and the reasons you were giving were spurious. I've allowed two of your nominations to go through; but I'm not going to allow the others. ➔ REDVEЯS has changed his plea to guilty 12:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Being myself from the state of Kerala , India , I may be in a better position to judge the notability of Joy Alukkas , also claimed to be from Kerala. Please help me understand how you have concluded the notability of Joy Alukkas !!!

Tinucherian (talk)

The guidelines for inclusion in Wikipedia are at Wikipedia:Notability. However, the main reason for preventing you from nominating this article again - I repeat - is because it was clearly being made in bad faith (childish spite, because your article was nominated). ➔ REDVEЯS has changed his plea to guilty 12:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Government of Kerala is created by me. It was earlier Politics and Government of Kerala created by somebody else. On my request, the title has been renamed. It is mentioned in my user page also. Under the new title, I'd contributed a lot to this. Not interested to comment on other false accusations. If anyone really needs it, I will clarify. Thanks.

--Avinesh Jose  T  08:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Pakalomattom Ayrookuzhiyil AFD

Given your comment here, I still think you're OK for copyright (although I am not a lawyer), but please remember my comment was in the context of speedy deletion - the slower articles for deletion process has different standards for copyright violations and is generally more strict. In any case, the issues brought up in the AFD include sourcing and notability, so my "green light" doesn't necessarily save the article.

I also reiterate the comments above by Wikidemo. Cool your jets. Your current behavior is not welcome here.--chaser - t 11:33, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Is this a person of Ayrukuzhiyil's obituary

Is this a person of Ayrukuzhiyil's obituary:

http://epaper.manoramaonline.com/source/pdf/2008/02/02/20080202AQ011110005.pdf

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Samuel Pakalomattam (talk) 23:11, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

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Please note that the {{helpme}} template should only go on user talk pages, not pages in any other namespace. In addition, they should be used if you require help editing the wiki, not information requests, etc. That is why we have chat rooms. --FastLizard4 (Talk•Index•Sign) 04:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Reply : Thanks for the advice.

- Tinucherian (talk) 05:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Note : Replied to your UserPage also.