User talk:Xashaiar

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Anout: Azerbaijani language in Iran does not use the Latin Alphabet

Hi Dear, we dont have 2, 3 or more Azerbaijani languages we just have one Azerbaijani language with 2 scripts, one is used in South Azerbaijan or Iranian Azerbaijan the other is used in North Azerbaijan or Azerbaijan Rep. it is not about Azerbaijani language in Iran, it is about Azerbaijani language itself, also if you were Turk you could understand the people of both sides of Aras river are same nation with same language and two script because of their different governments, we dont have lang-south-az or lang-north-az in Wiki , we just have lang-az. so which one is this? north or south? Latin or Arabic alphabet? when we use lang-az we should mention both because officillay it has two standard scripts nowadays.look, we write Azerbaijai not Azarbaijani because in English Azerbaijani is right now not Azarbaijani and this page is in English not Iranian Azarbaijani according to their beleives. also official language of Tajikistan is Tajiki not Persian, see wikipage of Tajikistan pls, Persian is official language of Iran and Afghanistan only. Each groups of Azeris want to write their prefered script here, why all of you dont let to write both, latin and Arabic, what is the problam?

Regards,

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Lecture? I though we can contribute and talk about problams like your talk in my page, if you cant handle it so why you have a look to your talk page? you could immidiately delet it b4 reading. did you lecture me now? cant we talk toghether? r we human beings? or just you can lecture us? prob you think you are teacher and we are students?. so what is this anger for? cant understand you Iranians. always anger and attack, shame.

what is Tajik? ask Tajiks, i dont know, i dont mind, i asked you to have a look to tajikestan's page. did you? so what has written there in front of "Officiall language" Tajiki? yeah? dont they know what is their own language? just you know? I'm not linguistic honey, r u? i just can see there is one Azerbaijani language with two script, both, here in wiki, even the latin one is more standard, look at windows language bar, when you choos Azeri, can u c any arabic alphabet? so where is this arabic alphabet that no one knows? just in Iran? those dogmatic people want too be pushey about this undefined script.

did I say the page of Tabriz is mine? huh? or sth like that? so what is this behaviour for? just becoz i dont agree? shame.

our script? prob. you mean Arbic script, am not Arab sorry if you r.

lang-az and its script is not the lang. which Iranian Azeris use between themselves, or in better words Persians want Iranian Azeris to use. it is a officiall language and script which world accept.

The behaviour is the most important thing between humans, dont send me any talk or ... dont have time to talk to impolite angry people. good bye forever.

" "REGARDS, " "

Persian Empire

You keep mentioning a "short article". Folantin pushed the same, but her article was under 5k and does not give an accurate description of the use or what any of the commonalities are. As such, it would be a stub and stubs, by definition, are supposed to be expanded. My proposal was an article from about 30k to 40k that focused on the political development of the Empire (its origins, its recreations, etc) and possible continuity between groups as a "Persian" imperial state. This was my example of trimming the top of the page (I only finished the first two sections). It could be further trimmed, but it mostly traces the establishments and notable political events of the state as an empire. The intro of the article would be a section devoted to the use of "Persian Empire" as a term - with emphasis on it being the "western" term. Then it would be followed by a discussion of the shah system and its relationship in making the imperial state imperial. Then, of course, followed by a brief history of the development up until the modern "Iran". Ottava Rima (talk) 18:34, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

More than enough time has passed to give them a chance to find consensus to not have the original page and they failed, so the old page was restored. Fixes can now be worked on to improve the page. Do you have any proposals for such? Any aspects to focus on and others to cut? This was a half finished version of my proposed model. Ottava Rima (talk) 03:33, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Tabriz

I just saw you modifications on the article about the name of the city with Azerbaijani alphabet. I don't know which one is correct but if you wanna to keep the Arabic alphabet for Azerbaijan name, in that case you may write just "Azerbaijani and Persian: ...".--M karzarj (talk) 00:34, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Right.Xashaiar (talk) 00:45, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Sassanid map

Hello! I think that the best way is the one I suggested earlier, i.e. go to the map lab and have a map made for us. They are quite good, and we can always suggest or add improvements once the basic map is done. Constantine ✍ 09:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello again Xashaiar! Well, shall we go ahead with the map? Constantine ✍ 19:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I'll do it (tomorrow though). Cheers, Constantine ✍ 23:05, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. Let's see if anyone will accept. Constantine ✍ 17:09, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

world languages

comment added - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language#Other_super-regional_languages

I do not know what to do

Dear Xashaiar, This is with regard to some edits I make to article Iran Iraq war, for which I have worked hard to dig very credible information from books and site for example the book "the longest war" written by historian Dilip Hiro who actually was present in both Iran and Iraq documenting the war. There is so much propaganda on the article, for example in the section Iraq retreats but war continues, some one has cited a book "In the name of God" and based upon it, has provided very distorted information in the article to make Iran look fanatical and crazy. I have the book and I read it and as per citation in article which refers to page 126, and the other book, the commander and khomeini both reiterate that Saddam must be held responsible and in the article this has been taken out of context so as to show that Iran was responsible for war. This is further reinforced in Dilip Hiro's recordings. Due these discrepancies I edited the article providing credible links to Dilip Hiro's book which is a text book of Iran-Iraq military history. And then out of no where another user with the name: Uirauna came along, who describes himself as a male German. This guy deleted all my work. A very controversial info in the article is that of a Saudi backed plan to pay Iran and end the war which is a pure propaganda and not even a single credible source, media outlet or historian has recorded it, the only citation in the article for it is based on the book of Afshin Molavi, who was a kid at the time of war and his book though a very good one I am sure is actually a part travel guide part politico-cultural commentary and part folklore based on his only one year of living in Iran. I do not consider that as a credible military history source. Any ways I am new to editing here _and just wanted to make this topic of immense importance which deals with a historical event with the death and maiming of millions for which responsibilities not only fall on the shoulder of warring parties but many others, a more informative place rather just another CNN or Fox channel. I wanted to make it up to academic standard, but it appears certain people here do not want that to be done and prefer a certain stereotype to remain and now that Saddam is gone they want to put the blame on Iran, such people of sinister thoughts whose nations were providing Saddam with weapons to use against civilians appear to be in control. As I said I am new and I dont know what to do and how to stop this guy from destroying my work. Please guide. Thanks in advance. ( you can check the history of article and see what I had intended to do to make it better. Further info on my talk page and this German guys's talk page.) Thanks.

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I'm sorry I won't make anymore posts on your discussion forum.

well someone left a message instructing me not to say 'that stuff' (mostly because I don't use a neutral tone when I make my states which contain 'loaded language'. Sorry but I get really angry when Turks and Arabs try to steal Persian scholars, so I'll stay away from the discussion's. Thanks and sorry for acting like a Turk and Arab myself. Khakeh patam Ditc (talk) 19:03, 23 September 2009 (UTC)DiTC

Your comments on various talk pages are really unacceptable and I think you should delete those comments. Read the pages WP:NPA and WP:FORUM. Thank you. Xashaiar (talk) 20:28, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Aji Chai

According to google search Aji Chai is more common than Talkheh Rud.--Microinjection (talk) 02:23, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Wrong as explained in its talk page. Xashaiar (talk) 02:33, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Is Gaumata Smerdis or not

Hi, if you know a lot about the origins of this alternative theory, please, write it. Do not just put into references! Besides adding hypothetical is your POV. Add critique if you want. It may be a good idea to have a separate section for this. StJohnTheBaptist (talk) 07:15, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

• I am happy that you will write it but dont edit-war before you have done this. Dont teach me the rule of wiki: Hypothetical is merely your opinion, so POV. If historian X calls this theory hypothetical - this what you say: historian X calls this theory hypothetical and add a reference StJohnTheBaptist (talk) 07:32, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

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On Dastgah

Xashaiar, I have neither the time nor the patience to enter into a round of essentially senseless arguments with you, or whoever else. I should point out however that since you took the initiative of changing my edit, it was you who had to present your arguments on my talk page, instead of I presenting my arguments to you! The more so because all the additions under discussion are due to me (in point of fact, the entry on Dastgah owes its present form to me far and far more than anyone else).

I shall therefore be very brief and hope that you will take my words as coming from someone who is not here for some ulterior reasons. First, Press TV is not my favourite, so that I have not been promoting them by citing them. In point of fact, aside from the political bias that Press TV may or may not have (I am not here to promote one political vision above another --- neither in my edits, nor in my discussions), I have always felt sick on reading news items by Press TV: their adopted style of English "prose" is that used by idiots --- I have never been able to make out what they precisely mean to say in their reports (their inappropriate and excessive use of passive voice, which I believe to be at least partly calculated, makes it impossible for the careful reader to make out what in their reports is fact and what is just a mere claim or fabrication). Press TV being out of way (similarly as regards The Tehran Times --- another publication whose reports are often replete with spelling errors! BBC Persian is yet another garbage publication, for other reasons which I shall not go into here), it remains an undeniable fact that they were the first to report on the event! They did so while the UN Conference at issue was in progress and no mention of the event was reported by any UN website (oddly, the UNESCO website is not equipped with a search engine so that what they report today will be lost to humanity tomorrow). Consequently, it is only appropriate to cite them here. I should further point out that the photographs that Press TV and The Tehran Times have published in their pertinent reports are not bad.

Now, you seem to be under the misapprehension that the UNESCO report were good. Early this morning, before citing UNESCO, I watched their video (as it is only appropriate, I never introduce a link into a Wikipedia entry before having judged its quality as being acceptable). The video certainly contains a number of utter nonsense. For instance, in the closing part of the video a person no less than the Director of the Music House in Tehran makes an utterly ignorant and biased statement with regard to Western Music. The bigotry and ignorance in this person's statement is just dumbfounding, and shameful; this man must be utterly ignorant about the history of Western Music! The video also contains some idiotic statements by a player of the Tar about the position of fingers on the strings, etc. In short, if you believe that that UNESCO piece is in some ways superior to the reports by Press TV, etc., then you are deeply mistaken. The only two people who in the UNESCO video on Radifs make any sense are Mohammad-Reza Shajarian and Hossein Alizadeh.

UNESCO has also a piece on Nowruz. Their video is a shameful piece of garbage. While it is supposed to reflect on Iran's greatest festival, one will watch in vein to see anything in it pertaining to the geographical landmass called Iran; they show a handful of events taking place in Iran, but for some mysterious reason, the sound fails as soon as an Iranian opens his or her mouth (this happens without any exception).

To conclude, if you care so much about Iran (and your username suggests that that must be the case), then please take an effective action for UNESCO to improve on what they present to the world as representing Redifs and Nowruz. That is far better than causing me trouble by reverting my edits. I have always wondered at the profound ability of Iranians to fight each other instead of fighting the real problems elsewhere.

As an olive branch, I offer you this. Now, please revert your own edit of Dastgah.

Kind regards, --BF 19:14, 12 October 2009 (UTC).

Xashaiar, you may dislike Press TV, and that is your best right as a private individual; as I wrote earlier, I find the way they write (independent of the subject matter) just nauseating. However, all these are related to our personal tastes. Here at Wikipedia (as well as elsewhere where we do things not in our personal capacity) we should put aside our likes and dislikes. We should give credit where credit is due. In the case at hand, while none of the media reported on the event, the credit goes to those original references that you removed --- please check and see the date I added them (had it not been for those original reports, I would never have checked the website of UNESCO --- which, as I wrote earlier, has no search engine!). Just consider one of the greatest scientists who has ever lived on Earth: Isaac Newton. It turns out that at a personal level he has been quite a nasty person. Does it mean that we should not cite his works because he does not fit into the mould of our ideals? Personally, I cite even my worst enemies when citation is due. I think this is very important, since otherwise the boundary between our personal and professional lives will fade and we will act just like Mafiosi. That is all I had to say on the subject matter. I do hope that you will restore my earlier edit.

As for what to do about those appalling UNESCO documentations, the least we can do is bringing the issue to the attention of public, in particular those who are in positions to do something effective about them. Since you say that you had known Shajarian and Alizadeh personally, you could just contact them and tell them about the sorry state of the UNESCO documentations. Just doing nothing and hoping for the best, is no option. In point of fact, when there is any occasion, I let people know what I think about things which are of public interest. Last year I wrote a letter to one of the main Directors of Farabi Film Institute telling him that the English subtitles of the films coming out of Iran are all substandard. He did not respond to my letter, but at least I can no longer blame myself that I saw some shortcoming somewhere but chose to keep quiet about it. In the case at hand, those idiotic pronouncements by the Director of Music House in Tehran (regarding Western Music) in that UNESCO video on Radifs must be removed before it gets us into the trouble of being accused as being a nation of bigots and philistines. I am sure that Afsaneh Art and Culture Society (see Afsaneh Ballet) will be in a position to produce two respectable videos, one on Radifs and one on Nowruz (please consult this page).

Kind regards, --BF 23:18, 12 October 2009 (UTC).

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Administrator intervention requested

Please see WP:AN/I#Iranian nationalist disruption of human rights articles concerning your recent repeated policy violations on human rights-related articles. -- ChrisO (talk) 21:32, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

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re Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Iranian nationalist disruption of human rights articles, I have suspended your editing privileges while you refuse to engage in appropriate dispute resolution processes and seek to malign the other party by reference to their desysopping and proper use of WP practice in warning you for your disruptive editing. LessHeard vanU (talk) 00:32, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

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Request reason:

Well I already got engaged in the talk page in hope of solving the problem. twice editing that article/edit is enough reason for indefinite block? I have seen PA and ad hominem from ChrisO who called all editors Iranian nationalist (2/5 are not even Iranian) Please see my comments there. I see him blocked for few hours but for not these reasons, only for violating 3rr. I do not understand why. would one admin read my comments in the link above and judge the case once more. I am sure I did not vandalise (the reason given for my block). I think something unfair is going on. Thank you

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The block is fully justified by your disruptive editing and refusal to acknowledge the problem.

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Requesting again

{{[[Template:Well, I did acknowledge the problem and I did offer a solution at the talk page. I guess there is a misunderstanding, I never wanted to add anything unsourced to the article. If you check my edits, I usually use sources. I agree that I should have not continued before seeing everybody agrees with the edits, but my impression was most people did agree with one sentence edit on that page. I think I could have been better in editing, and make better suggestions, but that was ongoing discussion in the talk page of the article. What I should do to be unblocked? Being indef blocked just for conflicts of POV? This is really unfair. I promise that such things do not happen again. Could you please unblock my IP at least? I (Xashaiar) promise not to edit anything. If I can not be unblocked please delete my account. Thank you. Xashaiar (talk) 01:11, 18 October 2009 (UTC)|Well, I did acknowledge the problem and I did offer a solution at the talk page. I guess there is a misunderstanding, I never wanted to add anything unsourced to the article. If you check my edits, I usually use sources. I agree that I should have not continued before seeing everybody agrees with the edits, but my impression was most people did agree with one sentence edit on that page. I think I could have been better in editing, and make better suggestions, but that was ongoing discussion in the talk page of the article. What I should do to be unblocked? Being indef blocked just for conflicts of POV? This is really unfair. I promise that such things do not happen again. Could you please unblock my IP at least? I (Xashaiar) promise not to edit anything. If I can not be unblocked please delete my account. Thank you. Xashaiar (talk) 01:11, 18 October 2009 (UTC)]]}}

This matter is being discussed at WP:ANI#Iranian nationalist disruption of human rights articles. The blocking admin has stated that he is "content for any and all sanctions to be lifted or varied upon the above parties agreeing to conduct themselves appropriately in this matter." To make sure that the problematic conduct does not re-occur, do you agree, as a condition of your unblock, to observe the WP:1RR rule with respect to all content, on all pages, related to the Cyrus cylinder? That is, do you agree to make not more than one revert per day per page with respect to such content?  Sandstein  07:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your review. Yes I do agree with the terms and promise things like these will not re-occur. That is I agree to make not more than one revert per day per page with respect to such content related to Cyrus Cylinder. Thank you.Xashaiar (talk) 15:54, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Per the request at my talkpage, I have no objection to lifting the block on this basis - and if it has not been actioned pending my response I shall do it now. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

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Twinkle abuse

Please do not abuse Twinkle to make non-vandalism reverts. Doing that is grounds for blacklisting or being blocked. Please see Wikipedia:Twinkle. If you have problems with my edits I suggest that you discuss them on the talk page rather than reverting out of hand. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

need some help at this page

hello Mr Xashaiar, I hope you're doing fine. I just want you to ask you to help me making this article larger and better because I'm new in this place and you have moer expriences than me. so if it's OK with you and you have time please take a look at this page. Thank you Persia2099(talk) 12:15, 05 november 2009 (UTC)

Ctesiphon and your claim I didn't explain my edit

I explained my edit very carefully. The battle there and then was a Roman victory. It was at the Battle of Samarra that Julian was killed and the Romans had to give up their campaign. If things had gone differently after Ctesiphon that might not have happened. Dougweller (talk) 07:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Atashgah

the problem is that wikipedia relies on secondary sources and not on logics. Inidans have published and manipulated a large canon of nonsense to prove they are cool and they are right everywhere. All their sources are biased. Moreover the fact that a Zoroastrian priest from India says that their prayerhouses look different does not say anything. Of course Zoroastrian prayerhouses of different dates and locations differ. Moreover I do say that Hindus and sikhs have once usurped this Atashgah, but as locals belive, and as their tradtions say as well as the name and architectural style are convincing facts that this building once served as a Zorooastrian xonstruction. I have informed about it from people who are very well informed about the republic of Azerbaijan's cultural heritage. They say the soviet authorities said that the building was visited by Indians and not Hindus. Indians can be anything., There are even Parsi zoroastrians from India. I do remember once I read a book about Baku published in the Soviet Union and it identified the temple as an old Zoroastrian atshgah which was used in the 19th (?) century by Indians. Moreover these Hindu fanatics here are so poorly educated that they call the Russian Persian expeditions of the 18th century as Russo-Persian wars and they claim that Shirvanshahs joined Russia at that date. Everyone knows that this is pure BS> In fact Russians did enter Iranian territory in the Caucasus and Caspian coast of today's Iran after Afghans attacked Iran, but Nader Shah retook the area back. moreover during the Zand era malmanagement and internal crisi Russia again posed some advances on the Iranian territory which was not finalized. The fact is that Shirvanb and Baku seprated from Iran by the treay of Gulistan and not earlier. Shirvanshahan on the other hand were subdued by the safavids already in the 16th century. This much for the Indian nationalists' poor level of knowledge. Moreover they calaim that gah is an Azerbaijani and Hindustani suffix. Again nonsense, if Hindustani's have a few words with suffix -gah this only means that they have borrowed them from persian. Every amatuer linguist also knows that the suffix -gah is Persian and not Indian. Having said that I urge you not to take the Indian extremists'site as their conduct is very disturbing--Babakexorramdin (talk) 16:57, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Edit Warring

Hi, you have been reported here. Thanks, Gulmammad | ^talk 17:30, 27 November 2009 (UTC)