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November 2009

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January 2010

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February 2010

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Bedford School

re the fire - as there are two refs - both from the same source which as it is the school it is classed as WP:PRIMARY, one of which says fire and the other says arson, and given that the one says arson does not go on to explain why it was arson then it is best to leave it as "fire". The fact that a fire occurred is verifiable the claim that it was arson, at this moment, can't be and since the threshold for inclusion in a WP article is verifiability and not truth it has to remain "fire" untill a WP:RS can show that it was arson. Codf1977 (talk) 13:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The fire was caused by a burglar; he was eventually convicted and sent to gaol. This was in the local newspapers in 1979-80. Hower there was no internet in 1979, so finding the articles will be a pain.

You have misunderstood the concept of a primary source. The definitions are below:

Primary sources are very close to an event, often accounts written by people who are directly involved, offering an insider's view of an event, a period of history, a work of art, a political decision, and so on. An account of a traffic accident written by a witness is a primary source of information about the accident; similarly, a scientific paper is a primary source about the experiments performed by the authors. Historical documents such as diaries are primary sources

Secondary sources are second-hand accounts, at least one step removed from an event. Secondary sources write about primary sources, often making analytic or evaluative claims about them.[3] For example, a review article that analyzes research papers in a field is a secondary source for the research.

The articles on the school website written 25+ years after the event are not primary sources, they are secondary sources.--20.133.0.13 (talk) 13:31, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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