User talk:Adamgerber80

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Ratan Tata

Mate the whole world knows Ratan Tata is a Parsi. The list of parsis page on wiki says that too.

Refer to below links for your clearing your ignorance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Parsis https://business.mapsofindia.com/business-leaders/ratan-naval-tata.html https://www.firstpost.com/business/ratan-tata-cyrus-mistry-fallout-closed-parsi-community-miffed-at-star-members-public-spat-3082288.html https://www.vccircle.com/who-ratan-tata-and-how-real-tata-he/

Below link is more clear than anything. Chaandra is the FIRST NON-PARSI chairman hence RATAN TATA the EX Chairman is a parsi. https://www.hindustantimes.com/business-news/tata-sons-appoints-natarajan-chandrasekaran-as-new-chairman-succeeds-ratan-tata/story-P8GPdnxqPuCqgwLWzGhFIJ.html

Hope this helps. Now I want you to go and update that on his wiki page.

PukkaParsi Wikipedia is based in guidelines and certain rules. One of them is that we need a WP:RS to include any information here. Here we cannot use Wikipedia as a reference per WP:CIRCULAR. So when you point to List_of_Parsis this is not valid. Second, we need a direct source which claims he was born in a Parsi family which one this source ([1]) does. All other sources are either WP:SPS or WP:SYNTH on your part. Third and most important, is WP:CASTE which is applicable to all India-Pakistan articles which states that one should not mention such social groups on pages. This makes your edit on Ratan Tata and many other pages a big issue. I would recommend you to not add this across all pages. Happy editing. Adamgerber80 (talk) 00:22, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I will not update them. But I would like to point out Parsis are a unique identity in the world and they have always been identified separately regardless of where they are born raised etc. Parsis are a race not just a community and their lineage is the most ancient in the world. So indeed this must be updated for parsis to be identified. Everyone has an identity and rata tata has one too and hes a parsi. Kindly let me know your thoughts on this. Thanks

PukkaParsi We have gone over this. Do not add Parsi word everywhere. I understand that you have a certain view about this subject but for all purposes per Wikipedia policy this is not allowed. Second, you cannot add content and then add a citation required template hoping someone will add a reference. You have to provide a WP:RS or do not add the content. Please be careful with your future edits otherwise I will have to involve an administrator. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 04:34, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok... yeah the citation thing was a first n the last... hopefully when there are no more parsis in this world, wiki tells the truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PukkaParsi (talk • contribs) 06:49, 28 April 2018 (UTC) Cyrus Todiwala hi, could you tell me whats wrong with Cyrus Todiwalas update. He has appeared on a TV show royal recipes. I have seen the show myself. I had also added the link to the show. Kindly advice why have u undone that. Please explain in non technical language. Thanks

PukkaParsi Two points, do NOT remove somebody else's comment from any talk page. If this involves your own comments in a discussion then also do not remove your own comments. This is a big NO and will likely get you blocked if repeated in the future. Now to your question on Cyrus Todiwala is the content you added seems to be daily news coverage not something which is notable to be on Wikipedia. Have a look at WP:NOTNEWS and what this constitutes. Another simple example here would be assume Ratan Tata came on TV and said something or gave a generic interview. This cannot be included here since these are daily news articles. I would highly recommend you to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia guidelines. And yes this does take time, and until then I would stick to small non-controversial edits. If you are unsure then ask on the article talk page. Thanks.

Adamgerber80, You say above "Third and most important, is WP:CASTE which is applicable to all India-Pakistan articles which states that one should not mention such social groups on pages.". Please can you point out the quote on this page that says this? Acharya63 (talk) 18:20, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Adamgerber80, thanks for the same. Could you pls respond to Acharya who makes a valid point. Also unlike communities in India-Pakistan parsis are not native to India but have been living in India for 1200 years. Even gov of India identifies them separately. They are only Indians by nationality. That goes for other identities who live say in america they are americans but by decent they may be iranians parsis germans. You must consider these facts. Let me know if this changes your view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PukkaParsi (talk • contribs) 05:53, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Articles which you are editing are WP:INDIA articles and thus come under the guidelines for that project. Again, please have a look at Wikipedia guidelines and how articles are classified into projects before making that argument. Second, all most all of your edits were without a source which is still the primary problem. Adamgerber80 (talk) 05:57, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Oriental Bank of Commerce

Hi, I work at Regional Office of Oriental Bank, The information that I added is fully reliable and 100% correct. You can confirm the same from any official of OBC. This information is very crucial for any person, also gives knowledge about the Bank's current structure and Branches. I think the information is fit to be added in the page of OBC. Kindly do not revert back the edits or provide some reason for the same. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yatin garg (talk • contribs) 15:44, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Yatin garg, We need a WP:RS to confirm that numbers. I cannot take your claim at face value that you indeed are an official at OBC. Also, the WP:BURDEN falls on the editor editing the content to provide a reference for their edits. It would be ideal if you could link this number off OBC's website or a newspaper article. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 16:42, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Arun Shridhar Vaidya

Please stop your disruptive editing.

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His community was explicitly stated in both sources. It was also put in quotes for easier referencing. I moved the citation close to the mention of the caste so you you see it more clearly. Here are the news papers and the quotes. They are present on the Arun Shridhar Vaidya page also.

News Source: Nagpur Today (Nov 2014)

http://www.nagpurtoday.in/fishy-weekend-coming-up/11051340

quote:"Among the famous CKP people are – Balasaheb Thackeray and the entire clan; Mr. C.D. Deshmukh, India’s first Finance Minister and Governor of the RBI, film star Kajol’s mother Tanuja who is daughter of famous erstwhile actress Shobhana Samarth. Nutan was her sister. Admiral Tipnis, Chief of Indian Air force; General Vaidya and many more such luminaries."

news source: DnaIndia mumbai report (Dec 2013)

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report-chandraseniya-kayastha-prabhu-s-aim-for-better-community-connect-1935881

quote: "CKP as a community has been known for its “writing and fighting skills”. Some prominent faces that it boasts as members are Baji Prabhu Deshpande, a fighter in Shivaji’s army, Ram Ganesh Gadkari, Marathi writer, B G Deshmukh, ex-chief secretary, Bal Thackeray, General Arun Kumar Vaidya, late army chief, and Tanuja and Smita Salaskar..."

Both this sources were right next to the field you reverted.Hope that helps. I am not sure how you missed this.

-Acharya63 (talk) 17:17, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Acharya63 What I meant by "Where is that stated" is where is it stated in WP:CASTE that is it okay to mention caste if the person is dead. I did see the sources and that was NOT the reason it was reverted. It seems you are the one who is indulging in disruptive editing since I was the one who reverted your edits. Instead of gaining conensus on the talk page, you have repeatedly reverted edits. I would recommend you take this to the article talk page, discuss before you engage in more descriptiveness. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 17:33, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Adamgerber80, WP:CASTE does not prohibit it - in fact it is an irrelevant page in this case. You are probably not familiar with biographies. It is considered perfectly acceptable to state communities/castes as long as it is sourced. See Bal Gangadhar Tilak or [[Mahatma Gandhi an an example. Please revert your own edit as I do not want to revert it - it looks bad - like editors are in a war. I think you mean well but are probably not familiar with the rules on biographies. Thanks Acharya63 (talk) 17:50, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Also see this User:Sitush/Common#Castelists. Sitush is the main editor for wikipedia articles. He has written the consensus there. Basically the rule is that for a dead person, the caste has to be sourced. For a living person, sourced caste is not enough unless he/she says it. For one example, Sonali Bendre is CKP but Madhuri Dixit is Chitpawan. However, only Madhuri's caste is added to her page as she mentioned it in an interview. Sonali's caste is sourced in https://www.mid-day.com/articles/goldie-bhel-s-maha-mantra/84701 but that sourcing is not enough although her husband says "Sonali's family is CKP...". She has to self-identify. Hope that helps. Thanks -Acharya63 (talk) 18:00, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Replied to your comment on the article talk page. Adamgerber80 (talk) 18:16, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Sindhudesh

Your edit warring on this article is clear WP:HOUNDING, and not conducive of good conduct. I suggest you revert your edit there before I'm forced to escalate this behavioural issue. Mar4d (talk) 06:02, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Can you please explain how this is WP:HOUNDING? And what was wrong with an edit which made the content more clear? I did NOT revert your edit, just made the content more clear. You were the one who tried to sneak a revert in without undoing my edit. Also for your information I do also watch over related articles like Sindhis in India, Sindhis and have edits on them long before this edit. I would highly recommend you to take your issue with that specific edit to the article talk page. If you have "issues" with specific edits of mine that please be clear on how they violate Wikipedia policy instead of thinking up random allegations. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 06:08, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

@Mar4d: Don't think about it, because that will result in WP:BOOMERANG, given you have least right to say that since you are wikihounding and edit warring in favor of a disruptive sock.[2] Capitals00 (talk) 06:13, 29 April 2018 (UTC)