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Fine Art Edit-a-Thon & DC Meetup 26!

Fine Art Edit-a-Thon & Meetup - Who should come? You should. Really.

FINE ART EDIT-A-THON & DC MEETUP 26 is December 17! The Edit-a-Thon will cover fine art subjects from the Federal Art Project and the meet up will involve Wikipedians from the area as well as Wiki-loving GLAM professionals. You don't have to attend both to attend one (but we hope you do!) Click the link above and sign up & spread the word! See you there! SarahStierch (talk) 20:50, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Smithsonian Institution Archives Edit-a-Thon and Meetup!

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	She Blinded Me with Science: Smithsonian Women in Science Edit-a-Thon will be held on Friday, March 30, 2012 at the Smithsonian Archives in Washington, D.C. This edit-a-thon will focus on improving and writing Wikipedia content about women from the Smithsonian who contributed to the sciences. It will be followed by a happy hour meetup! We look forward to seeing you there!

...and if you do not live in the Washington, D.C. area, please forgive the intrusion and you can delete this invite! Sarah (talk) 05:11, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hardiness zones for DC area

I object to using the 1976–2005 averages because with expanding UHI and a changing climate, the extremes of the 1970's, 80's, '94, and '96 are evermore becoming fringe possibilities—Dulles Airport hasn't recorded subzero since 1996, and who would beg to differ that an absurd −18 °F there in 1984 wouldn't skew the averages? I find nothing wrong with using the ArborDay Foundation's map, unless you can illuminate me otherwise. GotR ^Talk 17:49, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well that's your opinion, but I think the USDA zones are more definitive and more meaningful to more people, and better reflect historical patterns of horticulture and wild vegetation. Simply changing the numbers to ArborDay zones without qualifying that in the text of the article is misleading.

Also, climate change is not a linear warming process, and it may be premature to assume that because particular extremes are rare in recent years they will not recur in the near future.

In any case I would rather remove references to hardiness zones from the page than have it be a continued source of contention, and including both also seems like a lot of clutter for a relatively minor data point. Bardobro (talk) 15:23, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That said, if Dulles had a -18 in 1984, it seems not to have skewed the data, since it still falls into USDA 6b (-5 to 0). Neither USDA nor ArborDay takes into account all the microclimates that can occur within a small area. If Dulles did fall below 0 in 1996, it doesn't seem unreasonable to think it could happen again. My home is in the current USDA 7b (5 - 10), and thus far this winter we've recorded an extreme low of 12, and have recorded single digits on more than one occasion in the last 5 years, so this 7b designation seems pretty reasonable and relevant to me. Bardobro (talk) 15:55, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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	: In any case I would rather remove references to hardiness zones from the page than have it be a continued source of contention, and including both also seems like a lot of clutter for a relatively minor data point. [[User:Bardobro\|Bardobro]] ([[User talk:Bardobro#top\|talk]]) 15:23, 25 February 2013 (UTC)		: In any case I would rather remove references to hardiness zones from the page than have it be a continued source of contention, and including both also seems like a lot of clutter for a relatively minor data point. [[User:Bardobro\|Bardobro]] ([[User talk:Bardobro#top\|talk]]) 15:23, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

			: That said, if Dulles had a -18 in 1984, it seems not to have skewed the data, since it still falls into USDA 6b (-5 to 0). Neither USDA nor ArborDay takes into account all the microclimates that can occur within a small area. If Dulles did fall below 0 in 1996, it doesn't seem unreasonable to think it could happen again. My home is in the current USDA 7b (5 - 10), and thus far this winter we've recorded an extreme low of 12, and have recorded single digits on more than one occasion in the last 5 years, so this 7b designation seems pretty reasonable and relevant to me. [[User:Bardobro\|Bardobro]] ([[User talk:Bardobro#top\|talk]]) 15:55, 25 February 2013 (UTC)