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Please read New York Times' coverage of the Shanwei Massacre

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/17/international/asia/17china.html?pagewanted=1 this is the report. I think you ought to read the whole thing. It's quite detailed, and I think that this kind of information may assist you to make more informed decisions about your stance toward certain political entities.--Asdfg12345 00:20, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have only expressed opinion about one political entity - Falun Gong. I'm sorry this report is unrelated to my research on Falun Gong's live organ harvesting allegation.

Based on the fact you have maliciousely 'blanked' and altered my edit, I recommend you examine your own behavior in attacking other editors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Falun_Gong_and_live_organ_harvesting#Disputing_Asdfg12345.27s_alteration_of_other.27s_edits_to_lead_section].

Bobby fletcher (talk) 21:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the article? I would like to hear your thoughts about it. PS: You are right that I should examine my own conduct and attitude. That is very true, and thank you for reminding me. Sometimes I become annoyed with the way you present your arguments. On the other hand, I think it will be fine if you simply add information that can be used for the articles to the talk pages, with a very short, bland note. Please let me know what you think about the Shanwei Massacre.--Asdfg12345 16:27, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I want to know if you have read that NYT article on the Shanwei massacre. Please tell me if you have or have not read it, and if you have not, please find some time to take a look.--Asdfg12345 01:21, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1) You mean the police responded after the villagers threw molotov cocktails at the police? Here's a report from NPR to that fact:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5056500

"KUHN: A man who answered Jung Guanzhee's home phone in Dongzhou confirmed ... only when attacked by spear-wielding Molotov cocktail-hurling townspeople."

2) Here are more facts of the case:

http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%FCS%CF%A3%D7%8C&cl=3

http://www.google.com/search?q=%E9%BB%83%E5%B8%8C%E8%AE%93

-the armed police did not show up until the mob attacked the unarmed civilian police

-the mob destroyed a transformer

-the mob trapped the unarmed poice

-the mob leader Huang threaten to "raze the building" where the police were trapped in

-the wind farm in the next village that was damaged had no land acquisation issue

3) The NYT article is incorrect on the compensation amount. It is not a one time payment; all compensations total RMB$12,000,000 per year for about 1500 families, not 30,000 people.

4)Is it human rights to attack police with molotov cocktail? We Americans don't have such rights, why shoud it be any different in China? Rule of law means when the police makes an order, we go home and go to court the next day to find out if it was right. Why should it be any differernt in China?

Bobby fletcher (talk) 06:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What about where the police would shoot and injure a villager, then walk to them and shoot them again at close range? Do you have a problem with that?--Asdfg12345 19:01, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

May I also ask whether you have lived in mainland China? I would like to understand what you think about these cases like how Hu Jia's lawyer was arrested, and Hu Jia was arrested, and his wife locked in her house, and their laptop, cel. phone confiscated? Do you acknowledge that the CCP is violating the basic human rights of many of its citizens for the purpose of maintaining political power? --Asdfg12345 23:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am not from Mainland China, nor have I ever been a citizen of the PRC. I have no connection with the Chinese government, as most Americans do not. If you are into Truthfullness, then take a look at the balanced reporting of China.

I have answered many of your question. Can you answer my questions? Is it human rights to throw molotov cocktail at unarmed police?

Bobby fletcher (talk) 08:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of course not. It's wrong. Using violence against violence is what people do and have done since always, with few exceptions. I can see how you will be against this, but if you are against violence--ie, the villagers throwing the molotov cocktails--aren't you also against the police shooting the villagers from far away then killing them at close range? And all the other things like torturing dissidents and beating them? Just for speaking against the govt.?--Asdfg12345 16:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/6-3-2/38865.html this might be interesting for you. It's a letter by Gao Zhisheng about Hu Jia's disappearance. What do you think?--Asdfg12345 16:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another letter, this is from Guo Feixiong's wife: http://en.epochtimes.com/news/8-1-21/64409.html. He isn't guilty of any wrongdoing, but his speaking up for the oppressed is inconvenient for the ruling Party, so they torture him and lock him up. Aren't you disgusted by this?--Asdfg12345 21:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any non-Epoch Times link? Epoch Times, I quote, is "piss poor" as reliable source and you have not responded to my debate on reliability of Epoch Times (you archived the discussion, quite dishonestly IMHO.)

Bobby fletcher (talk) 22:33, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But these are open letters, it is just that they have been published in Epoch Times and that's where I saw them. They could have been published anywhere. Epoch Times doesn't have much to do with this. C'mon, that's obvious. I don't know what there is to debate about the reliability of the Epoch Times. I would treat it in the same way as any other primary source for these Falun Gong articles.--Asdfg12345 22:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you seen them anywhere else? Like major media? I'll ask you again - Do you have any non-Epoch Times link? Epoch Times, I quote, is "piss poor" as reliable source and you have not responded to my debate on reliability of Epoch Times (you archived the discussion, quite dishonestly IMHO.)

Bobby fletcher (talk) 05:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm asking you direct and simple questions about your view on basic violations of human rights by the CCP. Why are you avoiding it?--Asdfg12345 13:26, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm asking you a direct, simple, and easily verifiable question weither you have non-Epoch Times link. Why are you avoiding it? I believe I have answered your question in good faith; it is time for you to act truthfully and in kind. Bobby fletcher (talk) 18:19, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, there's plenty. I will even copy you the text of Guo Feixiong's wife's open letter here, I found this on a non epoch times site: http://www.weijingsheng.org/report/report2008/report2008-01/GuoFXwife080120BushGletterA331-W175.htm:

郭飞雄妻子张青致美国总统布什先生的公开信

注：郭飞雄先生为魏京生基金会2006年第三届“魏京生中国民主斗士奖”得主。请大家关注他的遭遇，并对他及家人提供道义及其它方面的同情与帮助。

尊敬的总统先生：

您好！

我是中国公民张青。我今天给您写这封信是希望您能伸出援手，援救我的丈夫郭飞雄。

郭飞雄曾是二00六年五月您预定要接见的中国民间人权活动人士之一。在二00六年的四月底，郭飞雄应邀到美国参加一个主题为《宗教信仰与法治》的研讨会。在会议结束后的五月十一日，您在白宫接见了从中国前来参加研讨会的三位人士，我丈夫却因非他个人能控制的原因，没有能参加您在白宫举行的与中国民间人权活动人士的会见。虽然他没能参加这次会见，但他非常赞赏您的这一有著特殊意义的举动，他说，这是美国政府对中国民间人权活动的认同和支持。

郭飞雄是中国活跃的人权人士，曾参与多起中国著名的维权事件，例如太石村农民罢免事件，发起并组织营救维权律师高智晟的声援活动等。为此，他屡遭打压，多次入狱。

二00六年九月十四日，郭飞雄又被捕入狱。政府罗织罪名指控他“非法经营”，说他出版了一本揭露中国政坛腐败的杂志《沈阳政坛地震》。早在二00一年，官方就以这个指控罚款郭飞雄十万元。现在，司法当局又搬出这个莫须有的罪名拘捕了郭飞雄。

在广州第一看守所拘留期间，郭飞雄被连续审讯十三个日夜，被强迫不准睡觉；被手脚穿插、全身弯曲地固定铐在木板床上达四十二天；被戴脚镣一百多天。

最残酷的是，二00七年一月二十日，广州司法当局把我丈夫转押到中国东北城市沈阳。沈阳警方把郭飞雄与死刑犯关押在一起，并对他施行了更加惨无人道的酷刑。

二00七年二月十二日，沈阳警方办案人给郭飞雄戴上黑头套，押到秘密地点暴打；反吊我丈夫的双手长时间悬吊在空中；用高压电棒电击他的生殖器。二月十三日，郭飞雄不堪电击生殖器的极度痛苦和羞辱，奋力撞向玻璃，但求一死了之。三月十九日，他们再次用电警棍电击郭飞雄生殖器，达五、六分钟之久。

二00七年十一月十四日，司法当局在没有有效物证的情况下，以用高压电警棍电击生殖器等酷刑逼供得出的口供为证给郭飞雄定罪，判处郭飞雄有期徒刑五年，罚款四万。

二00七年十二月十三日，经过长达十四个月的非法拘留和无数次的酷刑后，郭飞雄从广州第三看守所转到广东省梅州市监狱服刑。郭飞雄到监狱的当天就受到狱方的威胁，威胁要送他去精神病院。此外，狱方还规定不准他看报读书，不准他与其他犯人说话。同时，强迫他做长时间体力劳动。为了抗议这非人的待遇，郭飞雄在转到梅州监狱的当天宣布绝食一百天。

十二月十八日，在郭飞雄绝食的第五天，在二百多服刑人员面前，狱方暗中指定一个犯人对郭飞雄进行长时间毒打，直到周围观看的二百多犯人看不下去出声制止，打人者才住手。

更令我伤心的是，我的儿子去年九月应该入读小学一年级，可是他却遭到校方的拒绝，现在我的儿子已经失学在家五个多月了。我的将要升中学的女儿也受到失学的威胁，政府有关方面的人威胁郭飞雄说，“我们不会让你的儿子上小学，不会让你的女儿升初中。”

我的孩子经常问我，“为什么爸爸还不回家？为什么我不能上学？”

总统先生，现在我的丈夫还在狱中进行绝食抗争，已绝食三十四天，（狱方给其灌食少量流质食物，灌食量是一天食物量的四分之一。）他的险恶的处境令我极度担忧。我给我国的胡锦涛主席也写了信，但没得到回音，我只好求助于你，求助于崇尚人权的美国政府，希望美国政府能够发出声音，帮助制止中国司法机构这种严重侵犯人权的迫害和酷刑，帮助我的孩子免受歧视和失学的不公，督促中国当局释放郭飞雄。

非常感谢你对中国人权的关注和帮助。

张青

二00八年一月十五日

You can do a search for the text of Gao Zhisheng's letter about Hu Jia's kidnapping. I would like to know what you think about these cases. Please have a read and a think and get back to me.--Asdfg12345 19:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Still waiting on a response.--Asdfg12345 05:16, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I too am stil waiting on your response to Epoch Times using breast cancer photo to fake a "sexual torture" story. As least I am not so dishonest to "archive" the discussion so I don't have to deal with it. Bobby fletcher (talk) 16:49, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't aware that you expected a response from me on that. It's actually irrelevant to the Epoch Times page since there are no reliable sources behind that. It can't be proven either way, so I don't know what the issue is. It's one peoples' words over another. If someone says it looks like breast cancer, that's fine. That doesn't mean that it doesn't also look like electric baton torture. How many people have seen breasts tortured by electric batons? Not very many at all outside prisons in China, I'd say. To rule out that that could be the cause, given the mountain of evidence around the persecution, and also reliable reports of widespread genital mutilation against practitioners is too much a leap of faith for my tastes. But I'm beginning to think that there's no point communicating with you any further on these points. I can't figure the rationale behind what you are doing, and I'm starting to think that there may not really be one. Let's just keep it business-like from now on. In the meantime, please do stop editing in contravention of WP:DE and WP:TE.--Asdfg12345 20:38, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reporting vandalism

You can bring up problems with users at WP:AIAV, which is the best way to bring the issue to the attention of the administrators. - Koweja (talk) 14:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If someone is vandalizing and needs to be blocked, make an WP:AIAV report. If someone vandalizes once revert it. In this case, a revert and a warning is sufficient, and that's what has happened. Mango juice^talk 14:47, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Li Hongzhi's supernatural abilities

Hi, thanks for the list, but my English is just no good enough to contribute to the article, May i suggest you to add these claims by Li Hongzhi to the article, and I think Martin is happy to do the copy editing, as long as it is well sourced. If any of those FLG editors has any objection I will back you up (Yes I believed we share the same view on Falun Gong). Again, thanks for your work on FLG related articles. Zixingche (talk) 09:37, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blanked edits

If you have material backed by reliable sources that you feel is being unfairly blanked, collect them on a user subpage or in a sandpit where they can be looked over. --Simon D M (talk) 18:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editor Asdfg12345's blanking of facts from notable source

1) removal of citation from Zonaeuropa, a source Asdfg had previously accepted:

a) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falun_Gong_and_live_organ_harvesting&diff=199252635&oldid=199162090

b) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falun_Gong_and_live_organ_harvesting&diff=195911630&oldid=195868915

c) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falun_Gong_and_live_organ_harvesting&diff=195814588&oldid=189453120

2) blanking citation from ClearWisdom, a source Asdfg has used himself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falun_Gong_and_live_organ_harvesting&diff=198095416&oldid=198012180

3) blanking news report from The Ottawa Citizen

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falun_Gong_and_live_organ_harvesting&diff=178483849&oldid=178482051

4) blanking report from US Congressional Research Services

a)http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falun_Gong_and_live_organ_harvesting&diff=185211623&oldid=185097691

b) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falun_Gong_and_live_organ_harvesting&diff=195814588&oldid=189453120

5) blanking neutural POV report by Asia Times reporter Francesco Sisci

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falun_Gong&diff=199256756&oldid=199249051

6) blanking the fact Epoch Times is affiliated with Falun Gong Too Many!!!

7) Editor Asdfg12345 blanking Encyclopedia Brittanica, as well as source he himself have heavily promoted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Falun_Gong#RfC_-_Four_notable_sources_BLANKED_by_editor_ASDFG12345

8) Editor Asdfg12345 blanking link from Chinese Foreign Ministry, a notalbe source: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falun_Gong&diff=222969997&oldid=222929185

Even after the admins okayed the edit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falun_Gong&diff=223041906&oldid=223037963

Editor Fnhddzs' blanking of facts from notable source

(TBD, starting in 2006) 1) Removal of citation from usinfo.state.gov relevant to article

a) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Falun_Gong_and_live_organ_harvesting&diff=70909412&oldid=68882272

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Greetings

I have seen your contributions, and I believe they are fairly NPOV. Since we both are attempting to bring neutrality and wrest control from what appears to be FLG disciples, an article regarding FLG I believe needs your attention if you have the time. Both I and Ohconfucius have been dumbfounded by the edits of User:Dilip rajeev, on the article Tiananmen Square self-immolation incident. If possible, you may contribute the the talk page and express what you believe, since you are a major contributor to such topics. Thanks. EgraS (talk) 05:00, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AFD

Want to express your opinion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coalition to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong (2nd nomination)?--PCPP (talk) 10:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CIPFG

If you get some free time, please have a look here, I would appreciate your comments on the CIPFG and Epoch Times, as they relay to the FG series of articles as a whole. MrPrada (talk) 18:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notice about a possible RfC on you

This is just to let you know that if you do not stop the personal attacks, harassment (i.e. attempting to "out" who you think I am), and assumptions of bad faith, I will open an RfC about it. Please remove references to who you believe is my real-life identity wherever you have posted them. If you continue to engage in this behaviour then I will open a case. (RfC means "request for comment"). Cheers. --Asdfg12345 01:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to take me to Arb, just remember your harassemnt of me by posting the Western Standeards article. Bobby fletcher (talk) 05:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I repeat: please remove the instances where you refer to what you believe is my real life identity. It is obvious that by editing here as Bobby fletcher, a name you are (in)famous for, you must not have a problem being identified. On the other hand, I have asked you to fix the problem, it has been oversighted, and you have continued. You have also mixed it with continual personal attacks and incivility. These are very different issues. --Asdfg12345 11:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You need to be more specific as to which instances you are refering to. Non-specific request/threat like this will get you nowhere with me or Arb. I reapeat, take me to Arb - your notion of "infamous" is not a fact, and the fact is you have "outted" me. You have refered to what you believe is my real life idendity in the organ harvesting talk page - SIX TIMES since Jan 2008. Please fix these specific instances of harrasement. Bobby fletcher (talk) 17:15, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Bobby, how do you know Asdfg12345? I'm really confused.--PCPP (talk) 17:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

check Asdfg12345's edit history. He has openly given away his identity (such as personal email address) in appearant attempt to canvas - following his own logic in justifying outting me - he must not have a problem being identified.

You see, I did't do anything he didn't do, first. Bobby fletcher (talk) 19:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bobby you really need to start Assuming Good Faith

Titles such as this does only show that you have no Good Faith anymore [1]. Also you stated that you don't have good faith anymore: "After lenghty encounters with editor Asdfg12345, I can no longer Assume Good Faith." [2].

This means that you are on a crusade and you go whole heartedly against a fundamental principle in Wikipedia WP:AGF.

If you really think that you are right, go ahead Request for Comment, open an ArbCom case, do whatever you think you are entitled to, but be civil. --HappyInGeneral (talk) 09:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have stated my reason why I can no longer assume good faith, which is exactely what AGF said. Please stop making untruthfull, uncivilized accusation/attack. I don't desire your De 8-) Bobby fletcher (talk) 17:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FG

Ah ok, thanks for doing that. Intranetusa (talk) 23:00, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where to go for help

Hi, I responded to your query about the edit to the Falun Gong article on WP:ANI. However that is really for problems requiring administrator intervention. It's not for help in resolving disputes, which you don't need an admin for.

If you are in a dispute in future, the first thing to do is to make contact on the talk page of the article. Discuss the difference of opinion there and try to see what the other person's objection is and see if you can fix it.

If you cannot agree with one another and you need more opinions try going to WP:RFC and follow the instructions under "Request comment on articles, templates, or categories".

If you need advice or are just stuck and don't know how to proceed, try Wikipedia:Questions which should show you where to look next. If you find you're still stuck, you can ask me for help. --Jenny 10:12, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there

I see that I seem to have stumbled across your old war with the FLG trio of abusers, this is never going to end until we get them banned is it? :( Laomei (talk) 17:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Age falsification in gymnastics

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Your post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China

I am very offended by your recent post attempting to slander me at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China. Please stop this immediately, or I will be forced to report this to an administrator.

And, just to make this official:

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. —Politizer^{( talk • contribs )} 21:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your edits to He Kexin and Concerns and controversies over the 2008 Summer Olympics

I am reproducing here the message I left you at Talk:He Kexin:

The sentence you added is not notable. Of course the parents were indignant; all of China was indignant. That's not a fact that's notable to the investigation, however. Besides, the source you are putting in is a month and a half old, and thus is not as relevant as other sources anymore. If you want the source to be in that article, integrate it somewhere else in a paragraph; don't add a completely useless sentence about how the parents were indignant.

For those reasons, please do not continue adding this uninformative information unless you can integrate it into the article for real. Simply adding a random paragraph to say that someone's parents were indignant does not contribute anything real to anyone's understanding of what happened. Wikipedia is not a place for a random collection of all the random things you want to say; everything you add must fit into the article somehow. If you continue this disruptive editing, we will have no choice but to give you further warnings. —Politizer^{( talk • contribs )} 00:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of 3RR report

This message is to inform you that I have reported you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR for multiple reverts to He Kexin and Age requirements in gymnastics, as well as general edit warring. If you have anything to say, you may comment on the discussion there. —Politizer^{( talk • contribs )} 00:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Creating internal links

Please read How to create links. When linking to a Wikipedia page or talk page, you should use internal links (made with [[ and ]]), not external links as you have consistently been doing. —Politizer^{( talk • contribs )} 01:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your latest post to Talk:He Kexin

Please read the guidelines for citing sources and the guidelines for creating footnotes. Some of your additions of footnotes, including the one you discussed in your recent post at Talk:He Kexin, have included inappropriate titles that you made up for articles that already have titles. This could be seen as a serious Wikipedia offense—essentially trying to misrepresent the content of an article—and must stop immediately. —Politizer^{( talk • contribs )} 01:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He Kexin

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule at He Kexin. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below.

Per a complaint at WP:AN3. EdJohnston (talk) 21:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bobby_fletcher: please DO NOT use company proxies when you want to get in an edit war... Your behavior caused MANY people besides yourself to be blocked. If you feel the need to violate rules that will get you blocked, feel free. Just please be polite and do it from home, thanks! Nothingofwater (talk) 22:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring

I mean this not at all as a threat, but only as advice: as you have already been blocked once for your actions at He Kexin and related articles, you are at risk of being blocked again for a much longer period, or banned, if you start to repeat the sort of editing you were doing earlier—and it will take much less disruptive editing on your part to get an administrator to block you. For that reason, it is in your own best interest not to re-open old arguments, especially on those pages.

As for your insertion of information at He Kexin, I have already expressed my opinions on that over and over again, in many different ways, and I do not with to get involved in that argument again. If you want to continue your previous actions and keep on repeating yourself without offering any new arguments, you are welcome to do it, but you'll have to do it with someone else. —Politizer^{( talk • contribs )} 13:10, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just to make something said above explicitly clear, you don't need to make 4 reversions in 24 hours to be blocked for edit warring. You can also be blocked for repeatedly reverting the same text over time. It can seem unfair when the language you want isn't added, but the idea is that if 3 people disagree with 1, than that 1 person't arguments can't defeat the 3 merely be reverting over and over again. Please keep this in mind.LedRush (talk) 14:14, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:One-child policy

Please don't try to start a fight at Talk:One-child policy. If you have specific, constructive suggestions for improvement, then make those suggestions so that people may address them and improve the article. But don't just show up and say the article is bad. You're not going to improve any articles by just saying such vague and antagonistic things. —Politizer^{( talk • contribs )} 20:10, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are starting an edit war again. Since the version of the article without a separate "sources" section had already been in place for about a week before you removed it, you were the first one to revert without discussion. Therefore, please take everything you are saying about "please don't revert without discussing first," and apply that to yourself. If you really want to have a civil discussion, leave the page the way it was before you got there today, and then reach a consensus at the talk page. But don't come in and make edits to what had been an accepted version of the article, and then say that other editors need to reach a consensus before they can remove your unaccepted edits. If you continue your edit warring, I will not hesitate to report you again. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:57, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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	Please don't try to start a fight at [[Talk:One-child policy]]. If you have specific, constructive suggestions for improvement, then make those suggestions so that people may address them and improve the article. But don't just show up and say the article is bad. You're not going to improve any articles by just saying such vague and antagonistic things. —[[User:Politizer\|Politizer]]<sup><small>( '''[[User talk:Politizer\|talk]]''' • '''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer\|contribs]]''' )</small></sup> 20:10, 18 October 2008 (UTC)		Please don't try to start a fight at [[Talk:One-child policy]]. If you have specific, constructive suggestions for improvement, then make those suggestions so that people may address them and improve the article. But don't just show up and say the article is bad. You're not going to improve any articles by just saying such vague and antagonistic things. —[[User:Politizer\|Politizer]]<sup><small>( '''[[User talk:Politizer\|talk]]''' • '''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer\|contribs]]''' )</small></sup> 20:10, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

			You are starting an edit war again. Since the version of the article without a separate "sources" section had already been in place for about a week before you removed it, you were the first one to revert without discussion. Therefore, please take everything you are saying about "please don't revert without discussing first," and apply that to yourself. If you really want to have a civil discussion, leave the page the way it was before you got there today, and then reach a consensus at the talk page. But don't come in and make edits to what had been an accepted version of the article, and then say that other editors need to reach a consensus before they can remove your unaccepted edits. If you continue your edit warring, I will not hesitate to report you again. —[[User:Politizer\|Politizer]] <small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer\|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer\|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 02:57, 27 October 2008 (UTC)