User talk:Hittit

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Three Revert Rule

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Aramgar (talk) 22:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of Turkish names for cities, towns, villages and geographical locations in Bulgaria

I have nominated List of Turkish names for cities, towns, villages and geographical locations in Bulgaria, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Turkish names for cities, towns, villages and geographical locations in Bulgaria. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Flewis^(talk) 13:47, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

September 2009

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Turks in Bulgaria. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Laveol ^T 20:57, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

November 2009

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Turks in Bulgaria. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. tedder (talk) 21:18, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

3RR

Warning

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly, as you are doing at Bulgarians in Turkey. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. Todor→Bozhinov 16:38, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

lol that article should have been deleted as previously in 2009 so keep your 3RRs to your self, it would not have been a problem if you made an article for the actual 300 Bulgarians in Turkey now you de fact have an article of the 300 000 Bulgarian Turks in Turkey

Hittit, could you give one single piece of evidence that that article refers in any to the Bulgarian Turks who emigrated in 1989. And please no original research arguments like "the Bulgarian Turks speak Bulgarian".

Yes I have many facts, which we cannot say about the bogus article Bulgarians in Turkey. The article Bulgarians in Turkey states: “Bulgarians including a number of Christian Bulgarians as well as Pomaks, or Muslims of ethnic Bulgarian origin. According to Ethnologue, 300,000 people in European Turkey speak Bulgarian, though as most are Pomaks their classification as Bulgarians is disputed. According to the Bulgarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Bulgarian Orthodox Christian community in Turkey stands at 500 members.” Now what is fact here is that there are only 500 confirmed ethnic Christian Bulgarians in Turkey (official Bulgarian Foreign Ministry data), regarding the figure of Pomaks 300 000 it is based on some kind of a Christian Missionary source vague estimate. Now the article goes as far as calling a Pomak to be same as ethnic Bulgarian, which is highly dubious not to mention actively and intensively contested. Official Turkish census from the State Institute of Statistics in 2000 shows there were 480,817 Bulgarian-born residents (alive today) now these stretch as back as 1925. To claim that this figure includes 300 000 Bulgarian speaking Pomaks is absurd since only in 1989 some 300 000 Bulgarian Turks left Bulgaria for Turkey in the great Exodus. There is no official statistics showing 300 000 Bulgarians in Turkey or a separate figure of Bulgarian speaking population. This figure 300 000 could only mean Bulgarian Turks and some Pomaks (we can assume most can speak some level of Buglarian) for which exacts statistics are provided by the State Institute of Statistics. Now do you belive the official census of the Turkish State Institute of Statistics or Johnstone and Mandryk and their estimates of white Christians around the world? Hittit (talk) 20:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

A look maybe needed

Hi Hittit, I remember you from your participation in the discussion in the Bulgarization article and your calm and constructive efforts there. I came across The Destruction of Thracian Bulgarians in 1913 article and I found it somewhat single-parted written and with possible exaggerated figures (like the 200,000 victims of the Turk persecutions - I never heard of it-). I don't have the necessary sources for double check the events, but I think a second opinion is needed there to make it possibly a more neutral article, so I thought to inform you about. Thanks again for your participation in our common discussion. Let me know if I can be of any help in any other article (I have a limited speciality in the area of the 20th century's Balkan history). Regards, --Factuarius (talk) 00:39, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello Factuarius,

Regarding the article The Destruction of Thracian Bulgarians in 1913 I have presented my objections to the content and sources. This article is in a way in the same league as the Bulgarians in Turkey. My viewpoints 1) During the first Balkan War Bulgaria was the aggressor against Turkey, capturing vast amount Turkish territory in Bulgaria with significant Turkish population. During the first Balkan War hundreds of thousands of Turks and Muslims had fled to Turkey 2) in 1913 there was a population exchange between Turkey and Bulgaria (the Treaty of Adreanopoli and Treaty of Constantinople). Sources indicate that in 1913 46,786 Bulgarians left Eastern Thrace for Bulgaria and 48,578 Moslems emigrated from Western Thrace to Turkey (Refugees in the age of total war pp.17) + (The unwanted: European refugees from the First World War through the Cold War pp.46). The figures in the article The Destruction of Thracian Bulgarians in 1913 are absurd and based mostly on Lyubomir Miletich a Bulgaria linguist nationalist who claims to have conducted a census study in Ottoman Turkish territory (just the thought of this being possible is crazy) presenting astronomical figures of 300 000 Bulgarians in Turkish Thrace…I have tagged the article it really needs a neutral view point since in its current form is just a plane absurd.Hittit (talk) 12:54, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

bir makale hakkında yardım.

Selam! Turks in Bulgaria makalesine ilgini gördüm, kostja adlı kullanıcı yanlış bilgi eklemeye devam ediyor, Filibe'deki camii hakkında. İlgilenirsen sevinirim. Sevgiler. Filibeli (talk) 01:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Değerli Arkadaşım, Filibe Imaret Camiisinin vandallar tarfindan tahrip edildiğini ekledim.Hittit (talk) 17:47, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Map of San Stefano treaty

Hi. Hittite, although after your edit, what I said here was, off course, not for you. Just to avoid misunderstandings. Keep up the good work, --Factuarius (talk) 22:08, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Removing vital maps is good work? Kostja (talk) 08:20, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Kostja Eastern Rumelia is a product of the Berlin Congress and not related to the never implemented San Stefano, importance of San Stefano? How could this map be important for Eastern Rumelia if San Stefano was never realised and Eastern Rumlia was not the product of San Stefano? The map is also flawed since it suggests and misleads that Eastern Rumelia to be associated with San Stefano. If you look at the map it clearly states Bulgaria after the Treaty of San Stefano, which is wrong since these were suggested borders of the Principality of Bulgaria as an autonomous territory (one gets an illusion of independent Bulgarian state) second in the same map you can see Principality of Bulgaria and Eastern Rumelia, which are not part of San Stefano.

See my response at Talk:Eastern Rumelia Kostja (talk) 16:00, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

"Removing vital maps"??? Kostja do me a favour, stop making me laugh. Hittit has a reputation of a mild, serious and always honouring his commitments user, unlike you who always use the discussions only as a pretext in pushing your POV. In one article declaring "Having just one ethnographic map may imply that this is the "correct one". Different views must be represented"[1] and at the same time removing every non-pro-Bulgarian map in other articles[2][3][4]. Be serious for a day just for a change. --Factuarius (talk) 11:52, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Factuarius, see my comment on Talk:Treaty of San Stefano. I don't understand how removing one map is equal to removing every non pro-Bulgarian map. But you also seem to consider 18 to be bigger than 35 so it's not that surprising. Kostja (talk) 14:33, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of The Destruction of Thracian Bulgarians in 1913

An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is The Destruction of Thracian Bulgarians in 1913. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Wikipedia:Notability and "What Wikipedia is not").

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Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:08, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Notification

Please take note of this. Sardur (talk) 09:01, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

re edit to Kurdistan Workers' Party

Per WP:NPOV and WP:TERRORIST, please do not use the term "terrorist" when describing groups or individuals. Please regard this as an official level3 warning. Thank you, LessHeard vanU (talk) 10:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Canvassing and why it's a No-No

You seem to be currently engaged in a canvassing campaign which I believe is actionable as per WP:CANVAS. Please desist. Evidence:123 Good idea using the word Seferberlik (mobilization) btw.--Anothroskon (talk) 17:26, 18 April 2010 (UTC)