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This is how shit gets done. *the_undertow* ^talk 00:28, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

me+coding=no bueno

Okay, I did it wrong. <span style="background:#ffffff;position:absolute;top:-45px; left:-165px;z-index:-3">[[Image:example.jpg|164px]]</span> just showed the code. Should I take the no-wikis out? :) Chris (クリス) (talk) 20:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just went to your page and it appears you got it to work. Let me know if you need anything else. Lara❤Love 04:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm working/playing with it. I like yours better. Chris (クリス) (talk) 04:38, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What do you want it to look like? Lara❤Love 04:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Definitions

Threat versus warning. Compare those. You have been warned several times on both this page and the Coker talk page about your behavior, by me and others. Focus on the task at hand, stop changing other's words around, making obviously inappropriate assumptions about others opinions, calling names, etc. You've been uncivil and disruptive. Lara❤Love 19:26, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I in turn have tried to reach consensus on an issue where rampant excuses and obstructionism are all I've seen in return. Call them threats or warnings -- there's very little semantic difference -- I've gotten them for alleged violations of WP:3RR, WP:NPOV, WP:BLP and loads more, all because of the hypocritical insistence that i have some sort of "agenda". Yet even you must realize that it's all a deliberate excuse to avoid dealing with facts, the kind of facts backed up by reliable and verifiable sources that we demand on Wikipedia. If you have a genuine interest in finding the appropriate wording to meet your unrealistic and unjustifiable demands to fit your selective misinterpretation of Wikipedia policy, I will do what I can to fulfill them. If you refuse to cooperate in reaching consensus, please get out of the way and stop interfering with this article. That's not a warning; just basic decency. Alansohn (talk) 20:50, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Knock off the disrespect. I'm not going to "get out of the way and stop interfering" because you can't grasp what you're being told. I offered an alternative. If you don't like it, post an alternative that you find appropriate, and do it in a respectful manner. That is how consensus is built. Your behavior is disruptive and counter-productive. I can't more clearly lay out my position, yet you can't seem to get past your bad faith assumptions and see it for what it is. I'm not an obstructionist. I don't know this guy past what I've read in the article. The point is, whether you believe it or not, for legal reasons, we can't present quotes of living persons out of context. And save the whole "That's crap" reply, I've already read it the many times you've presented it. And, frankly, I'm tired of repeating myself. I have offered an alternative that is sufficient for this article. If getting this quote showcased is so important, check out Wikiquote. Lara❤Love 21:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have already said I will use your suggested framework and described how I will add the quote, with appropriate context. Are you still pushing the nonsense that this is a WP:BLP issue or not? To quote WP:BLP "If an allegation or incident is notable, relevant, and well-documented by reliable published sources, it belongs in the article — even if it's negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it.". Can you point me to one case where Wikipedia -- or any other entity -- has ever been successfully sued for using a quote taken straight from the source's mouth? Do you truly believe that you are protecting Wikipedia or do you have another agenda to prevent information that you feel is negative from appearing in this article? Alansohn (talk) 21:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to butt in here, but Alansohn your comments are now bordering on WP:LEGAL. Lara has been very civil and I think you need to cool it please. Pedro : Chat 21:12, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your buddy LaraLove has been pushing the false claim that there is some sort of legal issue here related to WP:BLP. You've got to be kidding that you think that I have threatened any sort of legal action here, which is what WP:LEGAL addresses, clearly stating "Do not make legal threats on Wikipedia." Are you actually claiming that this is what you think is going on? That this is coming from someone who is a Wikipedia administrator only makes the claim utterly unbelieveable. Alansohn (talk) 21:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1) "Do you truly believe that you are protecting Wikipedia or do you have another agenda to prevent information that you feel is negative from appearing in this article.." is borderline. Words like "has ever been successfully sued for using a quote" is also borderline. 2) Lara and I are a long, long way from being buddies - we've had mega bust ups in the past - but that does not prevent me from commenting for what is right. 3) The point is that Lara has been deeply civil and accomodating here, and you have not been. 4) With WP:BLP caution is the watchword. Administrators, of which Lara is a fine and capabal one, are entrusted to use that caution. Pedro : Chat 21:30, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Pedro.

Alansohn, you still don't get it. "If an allegation or incident is notable, relevant, and well-documented by reliable published sources, it belongs in the article — even if it's negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it." So true. However, it must be in context. Unless I have missed something, your alternative is an entire section devoted to this one quote. The way you had it was out of context and made him appear as if he was speaking of the country as a whole and not just his captors. I have gone over this ad nauseam. It is then a BLP issue because you are misrepresenting him and his comments. Not to mention, this quote is not even necessary. As I noted, it's not a shocker to find out that he harbors negative feelings toward the people who tortured him. So just say that he's commented on it and cite the movie as the reference. Or use my alternative presented on the talk page or something close. But stop running around in circles because this is seriously the last time I repeat myself. The quote will not be in the article out of context, and without consensus there will not be an entire section in a short article devoted to such an insignificant detail. Lara❤Love 04:29, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tiny & Tweeny Question

How can i make a customzied signature? Can you make me one? --FadedSoul (talk) 21:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What would you like it to look like? If you've seen one that you like, let me know whose it is and how you would like yours compared to it. Lara❤Love 04:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'd like the letters Faded in #000080 and it points to my userpage and Soul in #0000CD and in uppercase and it points to my talk page... Can you tell me what's the code hun? Thanks! --FadedSoul (talk) 17:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay this:

'''[[User:FadedSoul|<font color="#000080">Fa</font><font color="#0000CD">de<font color="#1E90FF">d</font>So</font>ul</font>]]'''[[User talk:FadedSoul|<math>a^n</math>]]

produces this: FadedSoul $a^{n}$

How's that? If not right, tell me how you want it tweaked. Lara❤Love 19:56, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, can you make the link to the talk page like this:

a^{n}

, you know the n being small and upwards? --FadedSoul (talk) 02:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, revised above. How's that? Lara❤Love 04:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect! I love it! ☃ ☺☺☺☺☺☺ Have a nice happy new year! --FadedSoul (talk) 15:41, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll adapt it and i'll keep you posted... Somehow it gets screwy... I'll look into it :) Thanks hun! --FadedSoul (talk) 15:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Outside view requested

Two months ago, someone suggested that I try to create a GA-worthy article. I waited until I happened upon a topic that was worthy of an article but which surprised me because one did not already exist. Having worked on the article, I would appreciate an outside opinion from someone who has nothing to do with the comics articles but is very knowledgeable with regard to GA articles. If you don't mind, would you please take a glance at The Reign of the Superman? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Doczilla (talk) 08:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be happy to review it. the_undertow ^talk 09:43, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone block dis copycat sig plz.

so i just go it from this party and they were palying this gaem. it has cards where it gives a word. Apples to Apples. evry answer was liek adolph hitler or the backstreet boys.

let me rewind. before that i was bringing an article to GA. i was doing good at that shit.

then i voted at Gig's RfA. the chronology is seemingly not consequential. these peeps are not my gang, they are neighbors. im leik not in a gang, but we all have orange county tacked on us so it's a gang, but it's not that bad. im not a gangster, just it a gang. see? ok so they are bangers too. that makes sense. we are notbad. but my guitar is teh good.

then i came here, and now im typing, regretting bothereing you with this whole thing, but then i think, hmmmm. cant be that bad. cuz can this be that bad? then i think, ill wake up and think OMG? BUT:

No more OMG. No more WTF? Just 5am and just, for some reason, lettin you know how my night was. thats it. its cool can i block dis copycat sig? o but i forgot. deja vu. fuck. i hate that. that chick i was tellin you about. she is into me, cuz she told me. so thats good. too long single, right? but yer advice is good cuz yer always right, and she likes me and even though we have been talking, liek i told you, she went to the trouble of putting somethin in the mail for me. i thin its the first time in my leif that i want someone to have my babies? is this long? ya. it is. shit ill be asleep till march. ahh. but hey, at least im loved, and this chick, was even liek, i have an account on wikipedia. for realz? its funny cuz she thinks i have a 'california' accent. which is bullshit. whatev.dood. im srs, whatev. im gonna talk to her laters today, so i will let you know. fingers croseed? the_undertow ^talk 12:44, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OMG, d0od, you're too funny... haha. Never regret drunk dialing my talk page, 'cause this shitz is funneh as hellz. Makes my mornings. So okay, I've never heard of the game before, but it sounds like fun, with the Adolph Hilters and Backstreet Boys. Good times. Uhm, would the GA be the one listed in the section above this? Or are you talking about Knitta? Haha. I haven't stalked your contribs yet, but I'm sure I'll figure it out when I do.

So, yea... I'll skip the gang shitz, I already be knowin' all dat. And, as for the chick, I told you she liked you. It's obvious. And hopefully you don't sleep until March... then you wouldn't be able to talk to her tonight, so that would defeat the purpose of sleeping with your fingers crossed, which I'm sure is kind of painful. So, is this account a vandal account, because that would be like forbidden love. An admin and a vandal... bad teims! Oh, and just an FYI, you live in Orange County, California and have for liek ever, so I'd have to say you do have a Cali accent. Just sayin'. Good luck. I hope it all works out with you and her.

Catch ya lata, Lara❤Love 16:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sup, Buttercup? I made a full recovery. I even slept until 4pm. What's great, is that it's time to do it all over again! Drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and block! Soooo good to see you..... the_undertow ^talk 03:48, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx for Peer review of Hilary Duff article

Just wanted to thank you for ur fast and quick response to my request for peer review of Hilary Duff article. I've addressed the major points raised by you. However, i couldnt address two points raised by you and the reasons for the same have been given here. I'll be copyediting the article again to improve any MoS/style issues which may have escaped my eye. Constructive criticism and suggestions for improvement are always welcome....Thanks again. Gprince007 (talk) 15:38, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

		The Barnstar of Good Humour
		:D Dashing Maxim (talk) 17:54, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Haha. Thanks. :) Lara❤Love 17:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Knitta on Delancey M-cropped.jpg

Yo, what name is this image on Commons? Because it was deleted while still linked in an article but the name is different. Lara❤Love 19:14, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Which article? Check the history to see what the previous name was before DYK set up the cropped image. In any case, I can find NO articles that use the temporarily-uploaded cropped version of the image. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please unprotect the Peter Yarrow article.

OK ?? Albion moonlight (talk) 01:26, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's protected because it's disputed. What do you plan on doing anyway? You know, if you really need to make an edit, the RFPP cabal may be able to help. —B oL 01:29, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where am I? My talk page? Yes, okay... had to double check. So yea, go file a request at WP:RPP. Lara❤Love 04:00, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually your the one that protected it and added the message that it was only going to be protected for a week. [1]. Albion moonlight (talk) 04:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Protection automatically expires. The template has to be removed manually, although a bot eventually gets around to it. However, the article could be edited already. Lara❤Love 04:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I think the 1 week protection turned out to be a good Idea. Thanks again.: Albion moonlight (talk) 05:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem. My initial reply was not directed to you, by the way. I was playfully noting that in seeing BoL replying on my talk page, I may not be on my own talk page. Like going to work and finding someone else sitting at your desk responding to your email, ya know? Lara❤Love 05:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't notice that at first but It does help explain things. Happy New Year to you and yours. : Albion moonlight (talk) 06:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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