User talk:JRHammond

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Hi. If you put your responses in middle of another editors comment it confuses the reader. By "splitting" the comment the first part is unsigned and who is saying what will be unclear. Please reformat your comments so that it does not "break" another editors comments. Thanks, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 16:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't believe I did so.JRHammond (talk) 16:09, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

My bad. Sorry, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 16:13, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Six-Day War

Template:Uw-3rr2 ← George ^talk 06:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Tell it to Jiujitsuguy, George. I've rightly corrected the article to comply with Wikipedia's NPOV and verifiability policies. Jiujitsuguy 3 times now has undone my right and proper revision, to make it read in a manner that violates that NPOV policy.

The last time he undid my edit, he did so with the comment that there is "no consensus" for it. But that's just the point, a perfectly good reason for my edit. As you will observe on the Talk page, there is no "consensus" that the attack was or was not "preemptive". The sentence thus, by his own logic, read so as not to assert either POV as fact, as my corrective has properly done.

I will continue to re-do my edit so long as Jiujitsuguy (or anyone else, for that matter) continue to undo it so that the sentence asserts as fact what is a subjective judgment, in violation of Wikipedia standards and policies.

Take your complaint to Jiujitsuguy, with whom it would have legitimacy.JRHammond (talk) 07:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

"I will continue to re-do my edit so long as Jiujitsuguy (or anyone else, for that matter) continue to undo it..." IOW, you're vowing to continue edit warring in direct violation of Wikipedia policy. Unacceptable. Enigma^msg 16:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010

Notice of enforcement action--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 16:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Notice of discretionary sanctions

As a result of the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles, the Arbitration committee has acknowledged long-term and persistent problems in the editing of articles related to Israel, Palestine, and related conflicts. As a result, the Committee has enacted broad editing restrictions, described here. These editing restrictions may be applied to any editor for cause, provided the editor has been previously informed of the case. This message is to so inform you. Enigma^msg 17:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Blocked 31 hours

For a clear violation of WP:3RR. Please note that whether you think you're right or not, or whether you think you're restoring "NPOV" or not, does not affect whether or not it's edit warring. Unless you're removing clear vandalism or defamation (not the case here), it is edit-warring, period. If you persist with this behaviour after returning from your block, you will be blocked for a lengthier period of time. Enigma^msg 19:01, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

The 3 revert rule states "An editor must not perform more than three reverts (as defined below) on a single page within a 24-hour period." I did not perform more than three reverts within a 24-hour period. Therefore, I did not violate WP:3RR. Restore my status. JRHammond (talk) 01:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

You made four reverts on July 16, after inserting material that did not have consensus on the talk page. Enigma^msg 16:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Let's be clear on the facts, here, because you don't have them straight. I made TWO reverts on July 16. I know of no rule stating any limitation on the number of EDITS one makes, only the number of REVERTS.

The first was because 24.23.193.232 had reverted the text to violate NPOV. That's not an opinion, but a point of fact, by his own admission (he acknowledged it was a "viewpoint", yet his revert made it read as a statement of fact). So my revert of his revert was perfectly appropriate, and my reason for it was agreed to by the person whose undoing I undid! So what was the problem here? There was none.

My second edit was NOT a revert. Acknowledging the correctness of my point and reason for my revert, 24.23.193.232 then added a caveat to the sentence. I found it acceptable, but made was a minor edit, changing "was" to "is" because it should properly have been simple present tense, as it is true today. So what was the problem here? There was none.

The third edit I made was also not a revert. I inserted additional factual information into the paragraph, fully sourced, neutral and verifiable. Did adding further information in such a manner violate any Wikipedia policy? If so, what protocol did I ignore? I understand that: "The Wikipedia community encourages users to be bold when updating pages." [WP:BOLD] What was the problem here?

Jiujitsuguy then undid the information I added, without any legitimate explanation. So I added it once more noting that the addition was factual, neutral, sourced, and verifiable and requesting on the Talk page that if anyone has any problem with it, they should air their concerns and comments instead of just undoing my edit, since it was factual, neutral, sourced, and verifiable. Again, I fail to see the problem, or what WP policy I violated by doing so.

So, as you can see, that's at most two "reverts" (I only clicked "undo" once). I therefore did not violate 3RR, and you're block on me is therefore wrong and inappropriate. I suggest you get your facts straight and exercise better judgment next time, so as not to repeat this mistake in the future. JRHammond (talk) 02:30, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I would also note that the 3RR page states: "Considerable leeway is given to editors reverting to maintain the quality of a featured article while it appears on the main page."

I maintain that all my edits improved the quality of the article, including in the case of the first revert, which was done so the article did not violate WP:NPOV, and the second re-insertion of additional factual material, fully sourced and verifiable. Yet, I was not only not shown leeway, but blocked despite the fact that I CLEARLY did NOT violate Wikipedia 3RR policy -- which you would have known had you bothered to take the time to actually investigate the matter seriously. What is with this prejudice, Enigmaman? Explain yourself. JRHammond (talk) 02:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

You very clearly did violate 3RR, but hey, I've seen this before. You will never admit it. Edit warriors never want to admit they're edit-warring. Anyone can see the article history, you know. Enigma^msg 06:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Kindly prove your claim that I "clearly did violate 3RR". You'll find you won't be able to support that false claim, since I did not make 3 or more reverts in a 24-hour period, as I explained in detail above, the points of which you are either too lazy, ignorant, or dishonest to actually address, the facts of which you don't even make the slightest effort to dispute. But, hey, you'll never admit your incompetence and your error. I've seen this before. Like I said, you should exercise greater care in the future so as not to make a similar mistake again. Cheers. JRHammond (talk) 06:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Exercise greater care to stop personally attacking me and stop edit-warring, else you'll be blocked again. You don't understand what a "revert" is, and that really isn't my problem. Enigma^msg 15:23, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I understand perfectly well that "Reverting means undoing the effects of one or more edits, which normally results in the page being restored to a version that existed sometime previously. More broadly, reverting may also refer to any action that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part."

You will observe the fact that, by this, Wikipedia's own definition, I only made two reverts and therefore did not violate the 3RR rule. As a further corollary, you wrongfully and inappropriately blocked me. Again, I suggest you get your facts straight and exercise better judgment in the future, so as not to make this mistake again. JRHammond (talk) 16:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Strictly speaking there may be some merit in JRhammond's original claim that there was no 3RR violation, as there were arguably only three reverts (by my count). However, the reverts in question were made to an article under general sanctions, which provide for an admin to take action to prevent disruption, over and above the edit warring policy which allows for a block even if 3RR wasn't violated. So while the letter of the block rationale might be questioned, the block itself was sound. There's no need to pile personal attakcs on top of (rather optimistic) wikilawyering. SHEFFIELDSTEEL^TALK 19:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I can also confirm that JRHammond did not violate 3RR. --Frederico1234 (talk) 21:32, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Frederico1234 and SheffieldSteel, for getting involved. SheffieldSteel, you suggest the block was "sound" despite acknowledging that there might be "merit" in my "claim that there was no 3RR violation". It is not a "claim" that I did not violate 3RR. Either I did or I didn't; and it is a fact anyone may verify for themselves (as Frederico1234 has done) that I did not. I don't know how you count 3 reverts. It's a fact that I only made 2 reverts (in fact, I only used "undo" 1 time) in the 24-hour period in question (as I outlined above). So, if I did not violate 3RR, how was blocking me based on violation of 3RR a "sound" decision? Enigmaman told me he blocked me for no other reason than allegedly violating 3RR. Yet he didn't even bother to take the time to distinguish between edits that were reverts and edits that were not. I took the time to point out his error in great detail, listing and explaining every single one of my edits and demonstrating I only made to reversions and reasonable requested his action to be undone. Yet even then Enigmaman didn't bother to address the fact, insisting I violated 3RR without offering any evidence for his false claim. If you can offer another explanation for this behavior other than laziness, ignorance, or dishonesty, I'm all ears. That is not a personal attack, it's an observation. If you think that's inaccurate, like I said, I'm all ears.

In addition, the 3RR page states, "Considerable leeway is given to editors reverting to maintain the quality of a featured article while it appears on the main page." That means, according to Wikipedia's own policy, the purpose of an edit should MUST taken into consideration, and whether or not it improves the article, such as by making it comply with WP:NPOV. Yet clearly the only thing Enigmaman took into consideration was the number of edits I made (even when they were not reverts). I maintain that my edits improved the article and brought it into compliance with WP:NPOV. This is not an opinion. Fact: There are two viewpoints on whether Israel's war was "preemptive" or not. Fact: The article formerly endorsed one of those viewpoints in violation of WP:NPOV. Fact: I changed the lede from asserting the one side as fact in order to make it read neutrally, offering both views but endorsing neither. Thus, it is a demonstrable fact that my reverts improved the article. My other edits also improved the article, such as by fixing the be-verb "was" to the present tense, as it properly should have been, and by adding additional relevant and factual information, neutral, fully sourced, and verifiable. As such, blocking me was wrong and inappropriate. I would like to think administrators could exercise sounder judgment than what I've witnessed in Enigmaman. JRHammond (talk) 01:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

This screed is wholly absurd. "This is not an opinion." Fact: When you start thinking your opinions are facts, there's a definite problem. You want a fact? You were edit-warring. Would you like me to ask other administrators to give their opinion on whether you were edit-warring or not? I think we'd have a consensus there. "I would like to think administrators could exercise sounder judgment than what I've witnessed in Enigmaman." I'd like to think editors could exercise sounder judgment than what I've witnessed from you. Let's look at the facts: 1)You edit-warred with three different editors to maintain your preferred version of the article, apparently believing that your opinion is the only valid one. 2)You denied edit-warring, despite a surfeit of evidence to the contrary. 3)After being blocked, you proceeded to call the blocking administrator a bunch of names. Other than getting a longer block, I don't know what you hoped to accomplish there. Luckily for you, I'm rather patient and I've been called far more names than you could ever conceive of. Enigma^msg 02:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Would you care, Enigmaman, to actually address the facts and logic of my argument? Because if you continue to choose to ignore the facts I've given you and the logic by which I've arrived at my conclusions, without addressing them, then clearly we have nothing to discuss.

And you still can't seem to manage to get your facts straight, and you continue to make false claims against me. See, I'll actually respond substantively to your statements of fact and your logic. You should try it.

1) I did not edit war with three different editors. That is false, as I've already discussed at length. In sum, my edits with regard to 24.23.193.232 were mutually cooperative the editor agreed with my reason for my revert and compromised with a solution I found acceptable, but changed to correct the GRAMMAR!), and thus not "warring". But even if one were to accept the characterization of this as "warring", that's only TWO editors, the only other editor even involved being Jiujitsuguy. No other editors were even involved. Again, others can verify that fact, and see for themselves that you continue to demonstrate either incompetence or dishonesty.

2) Your "surfeit of evidence" that I've edit-warred consists of false statements such your false claim that I violated the 3RR rule and your false claim that I warred with 3 different editors.

3) On your claim that I called you "a bunch of names", you are attempting to imply that I engaged in an ad hominem argument. That is false. I merely observed the fact that you had blocked me on false pretexts, made false claims against me, as you continue to do, and observed the logical corollary that this could only be due to either laziness, ignorance, or dishonesty. If you see any fourth possibility there you're welcome to share it with us. I accept the possibility that perhaps I've been unimaginative in coming up with any other explanation for your behavior. JRHammond (talk) 05:07, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I am not intimidated by your threats to further abuse your authority against me, because I have faith and confidence that others may discern the actual facts and circumstances here and make a right judgment based on those facts, rather than based on blatant lies, the latter of which seems to be your preferred method. JRHammond (talk) 05:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

JRHammond - We allow some leeway for recently blocked users being unhappy about that. I would like to indicate to you in no uncertain terms that you've reached the end of that leash and need to stop now. You're welcome to object - insulting and attacking are not acceptable forms of objection. You have been insulting and attacking. Please stop that. If you want to argue that your edits didn't violate WP:EDITWAR please feel free to do so, but (despite the inaccurate 3RR label initially) it's not clearly evident that you didn't do so.

Enigmaman - I suspect that you continuing to engage in discussion here is leading things on to further abusive comments, rather than resolving the situation. I suggest that you simply disengage and leave it to other admins who JRHammond is less likely to insult; it will hopefully help defuse the situation.

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 05:45, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Georgewilliamherbert, you're presumption that I need to prove I didn't violate WP:EDITWAR is faulty. The reason given to me for why I was blocked was that I had violated 3RR. As you yourself acknowledge, I did NOT violate 3RR. Therefore, it follows that I should not have been blocked.

If you want to argue I should still have been blocked for other reasons, fine, but the burden of proof is on you to show that I violated policy, not for me to prove that I did not. Given the fact that so far I've been presented with no legitimate reasons for my being blocked, on the assumption that if there was one it would have been brought up by now, I'm confident I did nothing in violation of Wikipedia policy in any of my edits.

Finally, regarding what you consider "insulting and attacking", like I said, if anyone would like to suggest any other possible explanations or logical corollaries of the fact that Enigmaman felt it necessary to make demonstrably false claims in order to defend his inappropriate and abusive actions, I'm all ears. Be my guest.

All I'm asking for is fair and nonprejudicial treatment and to be treated with an equal standard as all editors, and to be either presented with a reasonable explanation for my having been blocked or an apology issued for wrongful blocking. These are perfectly reasonable requests. JRHammond (talk) 07:42, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

The block was a correct one, and I've already offered to ask other administrators for their opinions if you don't agree. You very clearly were edit-warring. Whether you technically violated 3RR is subject to debate, but it's immaterial, really, considering the article fell under sanctions and editors have been blocked for much less. Edit-warring on such an article is a more serious offense than edit-warring over some comic book. I would make the same block again, and I make no apologies. I do note that I should properly receive apologies for all the baseless personal attacks you launched, but after years of editing Wikipedia, my expectations have been significantly lowered. Good day, Enigma^msg 05:28, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010

ANI--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 16:03, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Jiujitsuguy, everyone knows you have a personal vendetta against me because you are unable to challenge the fact and logic of my arguments demonstrating that your insistence that the lede should endorse one viewpoint in violation of WP:NPOV, so instead you work to have me blocked and otherwise silenced. Why don't you try answering the facts I've given you on the Talk page? In the interests of ending the edit warring you've been engaging in, I've also repeatedly requested editors -- yourself included -- review the paragraph as it currently exists and express approval or disapproval, and if the latter, explain any objection and alternative suggestion. Responding to that reasonable request of mine might be a more productive use of your time than trying to get me blocked or banned. It's instructive you choose the latter in lieu of the former. I hope the administrators take notice of that and see through your childish games. Cheers. JRHammond (talk) 01:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Links for Six Day War Material

I added links to Oren's book [1] and the UK CAB file [2] on the article talk page. The other sources already had links. FYI the declassified UK Cabinet files from 1915-1979 are available online at the UK National Archives as free .pdf downloads. [3] You have to use their "shopping cart system", but you pay nothing. There are thousands of documents, but only a handful have static links. harlan (talk) 20:17, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the resources, Harlan. JRHammond (talk) 01:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2010-07-11/Six-Day War

I've closed out the case because there's been far too much arguing on the case page already. If you are sincere in seeing this case mediated I will have a crack at it but 1) it needs to be resubmitted, 2) all concerned parties should be notified on their talk pages and on the article talk page so they can chime in on if they are interested in mediation and 3) there needs to be a commitment to mediate. If one or all of you are looking for someone to take your side in an edit war you've come to the wrong place. If you are interested in trying to work out differences so all POV can be included I will be happy to help. --Wgfinley (talk) 00:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not familiar with mediation procedures. I submitted originally in the hopes it would help end the edit warring behaviors some are engaging in. The basic problem is that most of the editors agree that the old wording stating as fact that Israel's attack on Egypt was "preemptive" violates WP:NPOV. The agreed solution is to make the statement neutral, endorsing neither one view nor the other. There are just one or two -- and I mean principally Jiujitsuguy -- who refuse to comply with this near-consensus agreement among editors and want to revert it to the un-neutral version. My efforts to have the article read neutrally in accordance with the majority agreement among editors resulted in ME getting blocked. So, it would be a breath of fresh air if one of the administrators actually did something to HELP the situation, rather than hinder efforts to enforce the agreed-upon solution among editors (see Talk page). If you don't mind helping us out on this, I'd like to follow through. If the behavior I'm describing continues, I'll resubmit. JRHammond (talk) 04:43, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit warring

Hello, you are currently involved in edit warring on Six-Day War‎. I hope you know about 3rr rule? You have already made more reverts. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:33, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing, for a period of 55 hours, for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal the block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first.

This is a continuation of conduct that got you blocked before, which is why the block length has been increased per WP:Blocking policy. Instead of reverting and telling everyone else to stop edit warring, please in future restrict yourself to discussing, say, the article content - or how Wikipedia can best be improved by neutrally reporting what reliable sources have written on the subject. SHEFFIELDSTEEL^TALK 15:34, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

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Request reason:

You should familiarize yourself with the situation by reading the Talk page before blocking editors. First of all, I was blocked before with the reason given that I violated 3RR. Yet, that was UNTRUE. I did NOT violate 3RR, which SHEFFIELDSTEEL seemed to recognize and Frederico1234 confirmed (see above). I was offered NO other reason for my blocking. Under Wikipedia policy, under the 3RR rule, it states that leeway will be given to editors whose reverts undo vandalism and/or help improve the article. There is a solution to the edit warring that has been accepted by most editors. That is to leave the 3rd paragraph of the lede as is until objections/suggestions for improvements are proposed and approved by peers before edits are made to it, which is also according to Wikipedia guidelines for resolving conflict resolution. If you familiarize yourself with this from the Talk page, you'll observe that this is a case where certain editors continually make changes without discussion, without explanation, without stating their objections first, without submitting their proposed changes to peer review, and in direct defiance of the express will of most editors that this be done to resolve the warring. I am enforcing that majority will and implementing that solution, because despite my repeated requests for moderation and intervention from administrators, I have received absolutely no help to get this taken care of. If you would kindly just enforce policy and help the majority of editors to implement the agreed-upon solution by blocking those who continually edit the article while being completely unwilling to follow policy guidelines and make a reasonable effort to seek peer approval for changes. I have twice requested moderation in an attempt to get SOMEBODY to do SOMETHING to stop these guys from editing in defiance of the agreed-upon solution, which is of course perfectly reasonable. Yet I have received NO assistance AT ALL. On the contrary, I've twice now been blocked for making edits which were in accordance with the above, because you people don't bother to take the time to understand a situation before blocking people. First request for moderation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2010-07-11/Six-Day_War Second request: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2010-07-25/Six-Day_War You'll notice in the second request, the one person who has shown the slightest bit of interest in actually HELPING, Wgfinley, who actually took the time to familiarize himself, and he confirmed: "It does seem to me this dispute has a lot of editors with divergent viewpoints who want to work things out and then a few who just want to edit war (usually IP users it seems)." He also agreed: "If you have people actively reverting the article and not using the talk page then this is administrative those people need to be blocked and/or the article protected until it can be worked out." Yet he apparently did nothing to see that that happened. I have been WRONGFULLY blocked. Unblock my account immediately.

Decline reason:

A few points:

• Don't get all hung up on whether you technically violated WP:3RR, it's just a specific application of the edit warring policy, it' snot an entitlement
• The only exception to the policy on edit warring is reverting blatant vandalism, which this was not
• I see that you participated in a discussion on the talk page that specifically discussed how users could be blocked for edit warring on this particular article, so I don't see how you are so surprised that it happened to the two of you who were warring
• You also are participating in a WP:MEDCAB case related to this, but you edit warred anyway
• In the future, sticking with dispute resolution and/or requesting page protection are better alternatives to edit warring
• You might want to read WP:NOTTHEM before making any future unblock requests

Beeblebrox (talk) 07:27, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

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Request reason: "

1) "This is a continuation of conduct that got you blocked before, which is why the block length has been increased per WP:Blocking policy."

The length of this block was determined according to my previously having been blocked. Yet the reason I was given for that first blocking was violation of 3RR. I had NOT violated 3RR, and I have not been given ANY other reason for the blocking, so, therefore, I was wrongly blocked the first time. Even since pointing this out and having the fact acknowledged, I still have been offered no alternative explanation for why that initial block was legitimate. Having been wrongly blocked the first time, it follows that the length of time of this block is also wrongful.

2) "Instead of reverting and telling everyone else to stop edit warring, please in future restrict yourself to discussing, say, the article content - or how Wikipedia can best be improved by neutrally reporting what reliable sources have written on the subject."

The assumption here is that I have not discussed article content or how Wikipedia can best be improved by neutrally reporting what reliable sources have written on the subject, which is an absolutely and demonstrably false presumption. Good faith notwithstanding, this demonstrates a total lack of understanding of the situation on the part of the blocking administrator. If you look on the Talk page, you will observe that I have been as active as any other editor in insisting that the 3rd paragraph comply with WP:NPOV, in discussion how to make this happen, in seeking to form a consensus agreement, etc. As the assumption inherent in the reason given for the blocking being false, the blocking is therefore wrongful.

The fact is that the version of my edit was discussed at great length and voted on and approved by a majority of editors, and that it takes into account objections and concerns of others. How is it "edit warring" to implement a version that has approval of a majority pending revision only after further discussion? I require an explanation. Short of that, the block should be undone.

The fact is also that the versions other editors, mostly using anonymous IP addresses, made that UNDID the version that had majority approval were done without discussion, without explanation, without seeking approval, and otherwise without making any attempt to reasonably come to an agreement on the wording, despite REPEATED requests on my part, as well as others, that they comply with Wikipedia guidelines on conflict resolution and take their objections to the Talk page for peer consideration BEFORE making edits. This is behavior that clearly does constitute edit warring. Yet the fact is also that despite attempts on my part to get administrators involved to block editors who edit the 3rd paragraph without first raising their objections and proposed solutions on the Talk page, the editors who have rejected the reasonable solution agreed on by the majority continue to have free reign to revert the version that had peer approval. It is unproductive to block editors implementing the will of the majority, who have gone out of their way to seek a solution through discussion and peer review of proposed changes, who have appealed to admins to moderate the warring, and who only make edits that have peer approval, while editors acting defiance of that agreement are allowed free reign to revert the agreed-upon wording.

According to WP:BP, the purpose and goals of blocking are fourfold:

  1. Preventing imminent or continuing damage and disruption to Wikipedia.

  2. Deterring the continuation of disruptive behavior, by making it more difficult to edit.

  3. Encouraging a rapid understanding that the present behavior cannot continue and will not be tolerated.

  4. Encouraging a more productive, congenial editing style within community norms.

1, 2: My edit did not "damage" the article. It was discussed at length and had approval from a majority of editors pending revision following further discussion. It is not a "disruption" to make edits implementing versions agreed upon by a majority in accordance with WP policy on conflict resolution. The disruption is 100% the responsibility of editors who revert that version without discussion, without such peer approval.

3, 4: By blocking editors who have gone out of their way to seek a reasonable solution and peer approval while editors who defy the majority decision on the 3rd paragraph are allowed free reign to continually revert the agreed version (despite requests for moderation to prevent this from occurring), the administration is discouraging, rather than encouraging, a more productive congenial editing style within community norms.

If administrators would just block those editors who revert the agreed upon version without discussion, as requested, there would be absolutely no need for me to have to continually restore the ONLY version currently that has peer approval pending further review.

It follows, since the block is contrary to the stated purpose as per WP:BP, that the block put on me should be reversed.

Whatever your decision, I hope this will bring attention of admins to the article, and, whether I remain blocked or not, that admins will take a more active role in helping those editors who are being reasonable to protect the article against those who refuse to engage in any kind of dialogue to reasonably seek a consensus (or at least majority approval) on the wording. Please take the time to familiarize yourselves with what is going on with regard to the 3rd paragraph of the article, and take the situation into account before similarly penalizing other editors who are only seeking to prevent the agreed-upon wording from being reverted by those who unreasonably refuse to discuss the matter."

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Decline reason: "I was very close to blocking you but someone did it before me, I'm not going to question that as you have been pretty out of control with your arguments there. Your style is to attack others and their viewpoints with walls of text. Nobody is going to react positively to that. Have a look at WP:TRI as I see them as words to live by. There's people there who want to work with you if you spent less time trying to shout over everyone. I suggest you take this block period as a chance to take a Wikibreak, take a deep breath and engage in civil discussion of the issues you have concerns about when you come back. --Wgfinley (talk) 14:49, 29 July 2010 (UTC)"

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Request reason:

The response to my second request to be unblocked did not substantively address any of the points I made in my request -- not a single one. Instead, it suggested that the reason for my being blocked is that I have "attack[ed] others and their viewpoints with walls of text". There is one true thing in that. I've written a lot of text. All of it presenting facts and logical arguments. I have never "attacked" anyone or their viewpoints, other than by pointing out errors in fact or logic in the arguments they employ to support those viewpoints. You will not find a single incident where I ever employed an ad hominem argument. Since this claimed pretext for my block is false, and since the valid points raised above in my previous request were not even in the slightest way addressed, this block is becoming increasingly inappropriate and should therefore be removed.

Decline reason:

This does not address the reason for your block, edit warring, which you did engage in. Contrary to what you seem to argue in your long request above, edit warring is forbidden whether or not it occurs in the enforcement of any real or perceived consensus (let alone a "majority approval", because Wikipedia does not operate by majority rule).  Sandstein  16:18, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

JRHammond (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Previous declination(s) did not substantively address the following points, which go to the spirit (as opposed to the letter) of the block policy:

According to WP:BP, the purpose and goals of blocking are fourfold:

1. Preventing imminent or continuing damage and disruption to Wikipedia. 2. Deterring the continuation of disruptive behavior, by making it more difficult to edit. 3. Encouraging a rapid understanding that the present behavior cannot continue and will not be tolerated. 4. Encouraging a more productive, congenial editing style within community norms.

1, 2: My edit did not "damage" the article. It was discussed at length and had approval from a majority of editors pending revision following further discussion. It is not a "disruption" to make edits implementing versions agreed upon by a majority in accordance with WP policy on conflict resolution. The disruption is 100% the responsibility of editors who revert that version without discussion, without such peer approval.

3, 4: By blocking editors who have gone out of their way to seek a reasonable solution and peer approval while editors who defy the majority decision on the 3rd paragraph are allowed free reign to continually revert the agreed version (despite requests for moderation to prevent this from occurring), the administration is discouraging, rather than encouraging, a more productive congenial editing style within community norms.

Furthermore, previous declination stated "edit warring is forbidden whether or not it occurs in the enforcement of any real or perceived consensus (let alone a "majority approval", because Wikipedia does not operate by majority rule)". But despite my question, "How is it "edit warring" to implement a version that has approval of a majority pending revision only after further discussion?" I have received no answer to that simple question.

Also, contrary to this denial, WP:Consensus in fact states "All editors are expected to make a good-faith effort to reach a consensus that is aligned with Wikipedia's principles. Sometimes voluntary agreement of all interested editors proves impossible to achieve, and a majority decision must be taken."

Anyone can see on the Talk page I've made an extraordinary good-faith effort to reach a consensus on the wording of the 3rd para. A full consensus could not be reached, but a majority decision was taken. That decision was to implement the wording in question, pending discussion and review. That is a perfectly reasonable solution. It further was agreed only after objections/suggestions have been heard and received peer approval should changes be made. There are a number of rogue editors who've rejected this solution, preferring instead to edit war, editing the para without explanation or discussion. It is therefore those who defy Wikipedia policy on conflict resolution who are 100% responsible for edit warring.

Decline reason:

With responding one way or the other to the merits of your defense, this account is no longer blocked (the original 55 hour block has expired) so there is no need to keep this unblock request active. You are free to edit Wikipedia, pursuant of course, to any restrictions placed on you, such as the ArbCom sanctions below. Vaya con dios. Jayron32 03:09, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

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recent changes

• recent changes to my sandbox, see this. • Ling.Nut 05:25, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Notification

As a result of an arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee has acknowledged long-term and persistent problems in the editing of articles related to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, broadly understood. As a result, the Committee has enacted broad editing restrictions, described here and below.

• Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process.
• The sanctions imposed may include blocks of up to one year in length; bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict; bans on any editing related to the topic or its closely related topics; restrictions on reverts or other specified behaviors; or any other measures which the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project.
• Prior to any sanctions being imposed, the editor in question shall be given a warning with a link to this decision; and, where appropriate, should be counseled on specific steps that he or she can take to improve his or her editing in accordance with relevant policies and guidelines.
• Discretionary sanctions imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the appropriate administrators' noticeboard (currently WP:AE), or the Committee.

These editing restrictions may be applied to any editor for cause, provided the editor has been previously informed of the case. This message is to so inform you. This message does not necessarily mean that your current editing has been deemed a problem; this is a template message crafted to make it easier to notify any user who has edited the topic of the existence of these sanctions.

Generally, the next step, if an administrator feels your conduct on pages in this topic area is disruptive, would be a warning, to be followed by the imposition of sanctions (although in cases of serious disruption, the warning may be omitted). Hopefully no such action will be necessary.

This notice is only effective if given by an uninvolved administrator and logged here. CIreland (talk) 01:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

One Week Block

It appears being blocked wasn't enough. You put in four requests to be unblocked, immediately after being unblocked you make a personal attack on me when I just asked you to take it down a notch (and I did not block you mind you and you were subsequently blocked by someone else) [4] and you then made it sound like there was no justification for being blocked [5]. It seems a longer time is needed for you to cool down.

Finally, launching into an attack on an admin that's just trying to keep the peace, was not even involved in any of the prior discussions and had nothing to do with you being blocked is a far cry from civil. You have 7 days to cool down now, if more action is made on that page to disturb the harmony there I will have to impose an article ban on you as another admin has already warned you about. Please, calm down, take a deep breath and a break and try to come back constructive. --WGFinley (talk) 04:37, 30 July 2010 (UTC)