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== Information about my topic ban ==

Privet kolega. U menia yest odin vopros. I have a problem with my topic ban. I was banned according to "Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:DIGWUREN#2011_2] by admin [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]]. Of course I agree that my behaviour was battleground. But I think that better fit to my case some kind of Interaction topic ban. I had problems only with certain editors and not only in connection with "Slovak/Hungarian ethnic and national disputes".

Problematic articles were not only about national/ethnic disputes:

Article [[Principality of Hungary]] was not about "Slovak/Hungarian ethnic and national disputes" but it was about relevance of the whole article and about his scholarship. Here is a contest: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Principality_of_Hungary&offset=20110926095844&action=history][]

I made a new article about history [[Slovak lands]] and it was about old name of present day Slovakia. Here is a contest: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Slovak_lands&action=history]

Principality of Nitra is article about first Slavic state. Here is a contest: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Principality_of_Nitra&action=history]

I tried to make a cooperation board, solve this problem by discussion. Here is contest: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Slovak_and_Hungarian_wikipedians_cooperation_board&action=history]

Article about politics [[Fidesz]]. Here is contest: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fidesz&action=history]

I founded article about [[Slovaks in Hungary]], than I left this article. And same editors are involved in and have an opposite point of view [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Slovaks_in_Hungary&action=history]

So you can see, that problem was not only about Slovak/Hungarian national and ethnic disputes. Its about certain editors with different opinions. When I left to the completely their area of editing, problem finished. But its only one Point of View in these topics now. Coz a planty of editors with different point of view were blocked. Only in 2011 it were placed on notice 4 editors which had topic battle with same editors as me [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:DIGWUREN#2011] (Panonian, Wladthemlat, Omen and me).

I would like to know your opinion if its possible to change my topic ban and make a neutral compertorium which exact problems are between the point of views of Hungarian editors on the one side and Slovak, Romanian a Serbian editors on the other side. This would be helpful to this project, Wikipedia have to be a neutral. Iam not extremist and I believe that I have a knowledge to contribute to these topics and ability to make a compromises with opponents (at least at talkpages of articles - for a test). Vsio horosho i spasibo za otvet. Poka --[[User:Samofi|Samofi]] ([[User talk:Samofi|talk]]) 10:47, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Revision as of 10:47, 16 February 2012

Please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~) and add comments on a new topic in a new section. I will respond on this talk page unless you request otherwise. Questions, requests, criticism, and any other comments are always welcome!

I am an administrator open to recall. To request this, please start a request for comment; if the consensus there is that my conduct has been unbecoming of an administrator, I will resign.

Duplicate wikiprojects

See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council#Duplicate Florida wikiprojects. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 13:50, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 30 January 2012

Просьба

Кирилл, подскажите мне в одном вопросе. Я здесь пока плохо разбираюсь в традициях разрешения конфликтных ситуаций, но у меня серьезные претензии к одному из участников, NovaSkola (см. обсуждение и секции ниже, там все коротко и очевидно). Я не представляю как достичь консенсуса с человеком, который, как мне кажется, задался целью внести в википедию заведомо ложную информацию, и вопреки правилам, не достигнув консенсуса, вносит в статью оспоренные сведения ([1], [2], [3]). В рувики есть специальная группа посредников, к которым обращаются за решением таких конфликтных ситуаций, они рассматривают вопрос и выносят решение. За возврат неконсенсусной информации, например, сразу следует блокировка. Как поступают в таких случаях в английской википедии? И как надо реагировать на обвинения в том, что я чей-то клон? Divot (talk) 11:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Чтобы было понятно, какой я "клон" (yep, it is well known both of them are clones), моя страница в русской википедии. Divot (talk) 11:29, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Группы посредников как на рувики у нас пока нет; наш Арбитражный Комитет вобще предпочитает не вникать в вопросы о содержание статей, a Комитет Посредников не может блокировать, итд. Порядок на таких темах как армяно-азербайджанский конфликт главным образом поддерживают администраторы арбитражного исполнения, которые имеют право использовать дискреционные санкции введенные для этого Арбитражным Комитетом. Если кто-то оскорбляет вас, я бы туда жаловался. Кирилл 01:58, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Спасибо. Divot (talk) 05:39, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 06 February 2012

The Signpost: 13 February 2012

Information about my topic ban

Privet kolega. U menia yest odin vopros. I have a problem with my topic ban. I was banned according to "Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren" [4] by admin Fut.Perf.. Of course I agree that my behaviour was battleground. But I think that better fit to my case some kind of Interaction topic ban. I had problems only with certain editors and not only in connection with "Slovak/Hungarian ethnic and national disputes".

Problematic articles were not only about national/ethnic disputes:

Article Principality of Hungary was not about "Slovak/Hungarian ethnic and national disputes" but it was about relevance of the whole article and about his scholarship. Here is a contest: [5][]

I made a new article about history Slovak lands and it was about old name of present day Slovakia. Here is a contest: [6]

Principality of Nitra is article about first Slavic state. Here is a contest: [7]

I tried to make a cooperation board, solve this problem by discussion. Here is contest: [8]

Article about politics Fidesz. Here is contest: [9]

I founded article about Slovaks in Hungary, than I left this article. And same editors are involved in and have an opposite point of view [10]

So you can see, that problem was not only about Slovak/Hungarian national and ethnic disputes. Its about certain editors with different opinions. When I left to the completely their area of editing, problem finished. But its only one Point of View in these topics now. Coz a planty of editors with different point of view were blocked. Only in 2011 it were placed on notice 4 editors which had topic battle with same editors as me [11] (Panonian, Wladthemlat, Omen and me).

I would like to know your opinion if its possible to change my topic ban and make a neutral compertorium which exact problems are between the point of views of Hungarian editors on the one side and Slovak, Romanian a Serbian editors on the other side. This would be helpful to this project, Wikipedia have to be a neutral. Iam not extremist and I believe that I have a knowledge to contribute to these topics and ability to make a compromises with opponents (at least at talkpages of articles - for a test). Vsio horosho i spasibo za otvet. Poka --Samofi (talk) 10:47, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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