User talk:Spartaz

Spartaz (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

What again?

I'm a long term user (first edit 2006) and have been an admin on or off since 2017. That makes me a bit stuck in my ways but I have the benefit of experience and working through many of the changes that have left us where we are. I am getting grumpy. Sorry but all the drama and grief has washed away a lot of my younger idealism...

A BLP is a serious matter and needs to be properly sourced.

I mostly work on deletion discussions. I am willing to userfy deleted articles for improvement as long as there is a reasonable likelihood that they can be saved. If you are challenging a deletion, do you have three good sources? Also, don’t waste your time asking me to review a close or you are going to DRV because I’m not going to review a close with a sword hanging over my head. Just raise the DRV or ask someone else.

Useful Links:

• Deletion Review
• Articles for Deletion
• Unblocks

Please don't leave talkback templates as I always watchlist pages when I edit and I'm perfectly capable of looking for a reply myself.

please stay in the top three tiers

Aqeel Najam Hashmi

I am not sure that delete was your only option (although I recognize that your statement "The keep arguments reflect a case of hope over actual sourcing" is correct). A couple possible options would be to tag the article with the template "BLP sources", or send out for clean-up. The only reason I write is the precedent this close may set is a preference for English-language sources (or at least Indo-European languages, where online searches are easier [or at least familiar]). The close after 7 days did not allow much time to search through Urdu-language sources or perhaps to find a native Urdu speaker to assist with searching for an additional source (since a mayor of a regionally-prominent city is usually kept [and there was not a doubt that the subject holds the elected position {so the usual BLP issues are mitigated, to a degree}]). --Enos733 (talk) 20:13, 14 June 2018 (UTC)  

This was an AFD and an unsourced BLP at AFD generally gets deleted. As you have agreed the keep side bought no sources to evaluate. If you find sources I can get them evaluated and if they are ok we undelete and relist. Spartaz ^Humbug! 19:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

I disagree it was an unsourced BLP, since the original article did have sources (and a Google news search does find some information in English, just not much more than "he exists" as seen here (and I believe was in the original article). The policy question was, in part about the adequacy of the English-language sources but also to what extent (and how) we should evaluate (and search for) foreign language sources in an AfD. While it would be inappropriate to keep an article that would not meet our notability guidelines, how should we identify articles (or AfDs) that need additional references from foreign-language sources (which may not be a quick google-news search away)? --Enos733 (talk) 05:18, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Mangrove Capital Partners

Hi there, It looks like you were the closing editor of the page 'Mangrove Capital Partners'. It was deleted because it apparently failed to demonstrate notability (and especially source independence) but the references included stories written specifically about the firm by some of the most respected and influential media including: Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-19/mangrove-capital-raises-170-million-for-startups-not-sell-outs TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/19/mangrove-raises-170m-for-its-new-fund-to-invest-in-europe-and-israeli-startups/ These articles clearly explain that the firm is not run of the mill but 'one of Europe’s most successful VCs'. I would be very grateful if you could review the decision to delete this page given the above articles do illustrate notability and are considered to be independent sources. I can share more articles if necessary. It looks like someone has been going around deleting the wikipedia pages of VC firms which seems peculiar. Many thanks! Allthingsrosy (talk) 08:23, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

What is your connection to this company please? You have registered your account purely to advance the interests of this page so there must be some connection somewhere. Spartaz ^Humbug! 10:03, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

I work for an organisation that seeks to attract investment in UK technology. Wikipedia is an invaluable source of information for entrepreneurs seeking investment. I have a list of VC firms which have recently been deleted from Wikipedia (they include Notion Capital, Episode 1 Ventures and Scottish Equity Partners). I do not work for any of these companies. I would be very grateful if you could review the decision to delete the page. Allthingsrosy (talk) 14:46, 18 June 2018 (UTC)