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Protection

I was thinking Babajide Sanwo-Olu may need to be upgraded to EC? Thoughts?-- Ponyobons mots 21:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just came here to thank you for upgrading the protection. Twinkle wouldn't let me request EC because my previous request was still on the board, then when I went back to my watchlist, you had upgraded it. I greatly appreciate it! Schazjmd (talk) 22:36, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, Schazjmd, thank you very much for the kind feedback. Most of the thanks goes to Ponyo for the notification though. 😉
I'm always fine with protection upgrades when mine has proven insufficient. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:38, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes there's a back story, and I'm totally unfamiliar with the topic so I thought I best ask before jumping in.-- Ponyobons mots 22:48, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have to admit I'm unfamiliar with the topic as well. The best "back story" I was able to find so far is [1], the addition of which started today's series of edits. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:58, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
i cant add anything .. can you switch it back to Wikipedia:Protection policy#Semi-protection HV85 19006 (talk) 14:44, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
this new protection type cuts off most of the ppl who were contributing to this wiki
Wikipedia:User access levels#Extended confirmed users HV85 19006 (talk) 14:46, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
can yall remove the protection .. i cant add anything to the list HV85 19006 (talk) 14:39, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi HV85 19006, if there's something specific you would like to change, please click here to request an edit. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:25, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, you're talking about a different article, List of equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Well, you have also already found its talk page and made an edit request, so it seems there's nothing left for me to do. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:23, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CS1 error on Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Preliminary statements

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Since you asked...

...may I call your attention to this diff? — SamX [talk · contribs] 04:20, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SamX, thank you very much for the notification! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 05:40, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Question about WP:GS/RUSUKR extended-confirmed restriction question

Does the WP:GS/RUSUKR extended-confirmed restriction also affect vehicles that are in use in Ukraine? Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (talk) 13:21, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Uwdwadafsainainawinfi, you are extended-confirmed and thus not affected by the restriction. If you're asking because you have seen someone else editing such vehicle articles, I recommend a "narrowly construed" approach: If you are unsure if something is a violation, don't treat it as one. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:09, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, I meant that if, for example, the Russo-Ukrainian War article has an extended-confirmed restriction, would this also apply to T-64 tanks? Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (talk) 20:20, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Uwdwadafsainainawinfi, it really depends on the perspective.
  • Users who are affected by a topic ban or a similar restriction (such as WP:GS/RUSUKR for non-extended-confirmed users) should not edit articles that are related to the topic.
  • Users who are not affected by the restriction should be careful not to excessively enforce the restriction against other users.
I'll state my suspicion more clearly: If you are referring to Ɋnym's edits, please avoid reverting them. They're editing in good faith and are understandably upset about the restriction. Unless Ɋnym obviously, clearly violates the restriction, others (and especially you after the previous conflict) should avoid fueling the fire.
For the record and to avoid an impression of hypocrisy, Special:Diff/1143437123 was very clearly covered by the restriction, as both the article's lead sentence and the exact modified text directly refer to the topic. So that was a case of me applying the "narrowly construed" enforcement approach suggested above. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:32, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, so if I then split the list with others in a month, they will also be placed under extended-confirmed restriction, so that only extended-confirmed users can edit them. Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (talk) 20:45, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Probably; feel free to notify me when this happens and I'll likely protect the new page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:13, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (talk) 21:14, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question about copyright

Since we are currently in discussion, if I now, for example, transfer the lists of Stijn Mitzer (Oryx) to Wikipedia, this is a copyright infringement. But since I know he doesn't have a problem with that as long as you link to him, my question is how can I set it up for Wikipedia to use, Diannaa had mentioned something like that on my talk page. Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (talk) 20:55, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Uwdwadafsainainawinfi, contrary to many other websites' content, Wikipedia's content is freely licensed. See WP:Copying within Wikipedia for details about doing so without copyright issues, and do feel free to ask if that page leaves questions open. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:15, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I transferred https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2021/10/kurdish-armour-inventorising-ypg.html to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_equipment_used_by_Syrian_Democratic_Forces and linked the article there.
But Diannaa now said that this is a copyright infringement, but if you want to transfer this information you can only copy it? Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (talk) 21:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh oh. Uwdwadafsainainawinfi, I thought you were referring to another editor. Diannaa's explanations about copyright are correct, and you may not copy content from that website. I thought you wanted to copy a Wikipedia article's content as part of your list splitting. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:04, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, I think he agreed that his work can be used under the above conditions, and Diannaa also gave me an opportunity by asking Oryx to fill out a form? Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (talk) 22:08, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Uwdwadafsainainawinfi, it is usually unnecessary to copy the content of self-published sources to Wikipedia. There is a way for helpful content to be added through a licensing form, yes, but I personally can't recommend the effort in this case. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:13, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a way then how to add this very helpful information from Oryx (which is generally considered a reliable source as many official news outlets have cited it) to Wikipedia, as these are often based on very short texts which cannot really be rewritten. Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (talk) 22:20, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Uwdwadafsainainawinfi, I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. As far as I know, the easiest way would be for the website owner to add the following notice to the footer of their website:
The content of this website, unless otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons: Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. The required attribution is: "Oryx, https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/".
There is also a form at WP:DONATETEXT (the blue button pointing to relgen.toolforge.org), but I'm not sure how applicable that is for text that will be released in the future. It also seems to be focused on Wikimedia Commons images rather than Wikipedia text. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:32, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've now asked him if he can licensed his articles under Creative Commons: Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0.
Hope that's enough then Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (talk) 22:41, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As that license is mentioned at WP:Compatible license, that would probably be enough. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:45, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ZaniGiovanni Comments

Hi @ToBeFree, I was wondering if it was appropriate for ZaniGiovanni to be commenting and adding diffs about other parties (I thought the evidence phase closed on 21 February?) in the talk page of Armenia-Azerbaijan 3/Proposed decision considering that the note at the top of the page clearly states "all editors must create a section for their statement and comment only in their own section." Thank you, – Olympian loquere 01:55, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) Hello ToBeFree - just wanted to say that I'm indeed commenting on my own section, and I'm commenting regarding recent edits in Shusha massacre article, an article that was mentioned by the Arb themselves, twice [2], [3]. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 02:30, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is not the first time that ZaniGiovanni in bad faith has ignored the protocol of the case to achieve their agenda – see the discussion a little over a week ago when another editor had to ask for ZaniGiovanni's comments in the workshop phase containing evidence to be suppressed. At this stage, I believe these repeated violations of Wikipedia protocol may warrant some action to prevent future abuse. – Olympian loquere 03:00, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, I commented regarding a recent context of an article that was mentioned by Guerillero twice in the Proposed decision page, a context/reverts that happened after the evidence phase yet it's mentioned in the Proposed decision – which to me indicates its importance. I'd gladly self revert if asked by Guerillero or ToBeFree, and I'm not even going to comment on Olympian's own assumptions about me which violate WP:PA. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 03:25, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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