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--[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 07:36, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
--[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 07:36, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

== Policy concerning quotes in several articles ==

I am contacting you in your talk page because this comment has to do with your edits in several articles.

I see you have eliminated some quotes in an article arguing "reluctantly revert as editor is unnecessarily adding large chunks of text that risks a copyright violation" [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gibraltarians&diff=879171865&oldid=879171710] or "rm extensive quotation, unnecessary"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gibraltarians&diff=879164766&oldid=879162691].

On the other hand, you have recently (this week) added extensive chunks of quote text to another article: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capture_of_Gibraltar&diff=next&oldid=878014697], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capture_of_Gibraltar&diff=next&oldid=878015988], not in one citation, but ten of them.

Given that you think that large chunks of text don't risk a copyright violation (as you have shown in the [[Capture of Gibraltar]] article), you should revert your "reluctant" revert in [[Gibraltarians]].

Thank you. - [[User:Imalbornoz|Imalbornoz]] ([[User talk:Imalbornoz|talk]]) 16:09, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Policy concerning quotes in several articles

I am contacting you in your talk page because this comment has to do with your edits in several articles.

I see you have eliminated some quotes in an article arguing "reluctantly revert as editor is unnecessarily adding large chunks of text that risks a copyright violation" [1] or "rm extensive quotation, unnecessary"[2].

On the other hand, you have recently (this week) added extensive chunks of quote text to another article: [3], [4], not in one citation, but ten of them.

Given that you think that large chunks of text don't risk a copyright violation (as you have shown in the Capture of Gibraltar article), you should revert your "reluctant" revert in Gibraltarians.

Thank you. - Imalbornoz (talk) 16:09, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]