Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Assembly of the Community of Serbian municipalities

Assembly of the Community of Serbian municipalities

The filing party (the editor who opened this request) will add the basic details for this dispute below.

Editors involved in this dispute

1. Heracletus (talk · contribs)
2. Qwerty786 (talk · contribs)

Articles affected by this dispute

1. Assembly of the Community of Serbian municipalities (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
2. Community of Serbian municipalities, Kosovo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
3. Kosovo Serb enclaves (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
4. North Kosovo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Other attempts at resolving this dispute that you have attempted

• Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities
• Talk:Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities#Recent_edits
• Talk:Community of Serbian municipalities, Kosovo#Recent_edits
• User_talk:Heracletus#The_new_Kosovo_Serb_assembly
• User_talk:Qwerty786#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Municipalities_of_the_Autonomous_Province_of_Kosovo_and_Metohija
• Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Serbia#Association_of_Serbian_municipalities.2C_Kosovo_and_Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities
• Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Kosovo#Association_of_Serbian_municipalities.2C_Kosovo_and_Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities
• User_talk:Koavf#Association_of_Serbian_municipalities.2C_Kosovo_and_Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities
• User_talk:Zoupan#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities_and_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities.2C_Kosovo

Issues to be mediated

What is this dispute about? What sections, sentences, or issues in the article(s) can you not agree on? If you are the editor who opened this request, list these issues to be mediated under "Primary issues". If you did not open this request, you can add additional issues to be mediated under "Additional issues". The issues to be mediated would be properly agreed upon later, if this request for mediation is accepted.

Primary issues (added by the filing party)

1. How should the organization from 2008 be handled with the organization that is forming in the next few months?
2. How should the nationalistic and conduct issues regarding this organization be handled, especially with respect to WP:ARBMAC??

Additional issues (added by other parties)

• The filling party, User:Hasteur, filled this request, trying to make it into a conduct review, and potentially cause sanctions by involving the Arbitration Committee, even though this had nothing to do with the reasons for which we had sought dispute resolution or the articles involved, or their content, or even our conduct in them. After filling this request, he/she tried to disengage himself/herself from this process, stating he/she is not involved in this, even though he filled this and tried to push it to be a mediation over his/her own grievances, contrary to what is stated here: "Formal mediation is only suitable for disputes over article content, so requests to mediate grievances with other editors will not be accepted." The relevant differences to prove this and related content are: [1], Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities, [2] and [3]. This kind of conduct is highly disruptive and forced me to reformulate this request. Heracletus (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
• Additional issue 2

Parties' agreement to mediation

If you are a named party, please sign below and indicate whether you agree or refuse to participate in mediation. Remember that all editors are obliged to resolve disputes about content through discussion, mediation, or other similar means. If you do not wish to participate in mediation, you must arrange another form of dispute resolution. Comments and questions should be made underneath the numbered list below, to avoid confusion.

1. I agree. Heracletus (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
2. I will participate Qwerty786 (talk) 02:26, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Decision of the Mediation Committee

This section should only be edited by a mediator. The Mediation Committee's representative will indicate in due course whether the request is accepted (meaning a mediator will be assigned) or rejected (meaning you will have to try a different type of dispute resolution). If the mediator asks you a question in this section, you may edit here.

DRN Case manager's note: This is a referral from DRN for failure to come to a solution due to conduct based issues. Indications were made at DRN that one (or more) of the parties to the case would not respect the outcome unless it was in their favor (or enforced by an Admin). Hasteur (talk) 18:32, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

No party ever indicated such a thing in DRN or anywhere else. To prove this, one can check Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities. Furthermore, the issues which caused User:Hasteur to choose to close the dispute resolution thread on DRN had nothing to do with the dispute, and all to do with what he/she perceived as bad faith against certain volunteers, including himself. By claiming that any party would not respect the outcome unless it was in their favour, User:Hasteur once again tries to be disruptive towards the mediation he/she himself/herself filled a request for. Heracletus (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Again we have one user being a general nusiance to wikipedia (by striking my comment which violates WP:TPO) and others trying to come to a resolution. Hasteur (talk) 02:02, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Furthermore I assert that all pages except Assembly of the Community of Serbian municipalities and the talk pages that are not Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities or Talk:Assembly_of_the_Community_of_Serbian_municipalities#Recent_edits are not germane to this Mediation but are a symptom of a larger pattern of disruption by Heracletus and would encourage the Mediation Committee to explicitly leave them out of this issue unless it is the goal of the committee to have an Omnibus Serbia/Kosovo mediation. Hasteur (talk) 02:09, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Since Heracletus has failed to read WP:TPO multiple times after it being pointed out to him I present

Never edit or move someone's comment to change its meaning, even on your own talk page. Striking text constitutes a change in meaning, and should only be done by the user who wrote it or someone acting at their explicit request.

. Since Heracletus is either incompentent and can't understand the rules of the road or is willfully trying to yank me in to this case by making it a conduct issue with me as well, I'll add myself to this case and come down on the prejudiced side of opposing anything Heracletus wants. Hasteur (talk) 03:00, 6 May 2014 (UTC)