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On a more interesting note, at least to me, Bars77 apparently started right back up where he left off, with {{checkuser|Vandorenfm}}. This account made edits from the same IP as Bars77, starting only 20 ''minutes'' after the autoblock expired. 30 minutes after that, he [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nagorno-Karabakh&diff=443289802&oldid=443175298 began revert-warring] on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bars77 same page] that Bars77 was before he got blocked. I am only giving this much information because the Vandorenfm account has been around for much longer than the Bars77 one has. I at first was not sure if I should say that these accounts are related, but all of the above happening with two users on the ''same IP address '''and''' with the same user agent'' just seemed way too much to be a coincidence. [[User:J.delanoy|<font color="green">J'''.'''delanoy</font>]][[User Talk:J.delanoy|<sup><font color="red">gabs</font></sup>]][[Special:Contributions/J.delanoy|<font color="blue"><sub>adds</sub></font>]] 05:10, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
On a more interesting note, at least to me, Bars77 apparently started right back up where he left off, with {{checkuser|Vandorenfm}}. This account made edits from the same IP as Bars77, starting only 20 ''minutes'' after the autoblock expired. 30 minutes after that, he [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nagorno-Karabakh&diff=443289802&oldid=443175298 began revert-warring] on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bars77 same page] that Bars77 was before he got blocked. I am only giving this much information because the Vandorenfm account has been around for much longer than the Bars77 one has. I at first was not sure if I should say that these accounts are related, but all of the above happening with two users on the ''same IP address '''and''' with the same user agent'' just seemed way too much to be a coincidence. [[User:J.delanoy|<font color="green">J'''.'''delanoy</font>]][[User Talk:J.delanoy|<sup><font color="red">gabs</font></sup>]][[Special:Contributions/J.delanoy|<font color="blue"><sub>adds</sub></font>]] 05:10, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
*The similarity of the editing interests between Vandorenfm and {{user|Gorzaim}} is strong, as can be seen from [http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/stalker/?db=enwiki_p&user1=Vandorenfm&user2=Gorzaim wikistalk]. They are both interested in the most contentious AA articles like [[Nagorno-Karabakh]], [[Caucasian Albania]] and [[Shusha]] where they support the same side of the debate. Can checkuser say whether Gorzaim and Vandorenfm have used the same IP? [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 14:13, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
*The similarity of the editing interests between Vandorenfm and {{user|Gorzaim}} is strong, as can be seen from [http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/stalker/?db=enwiki_p&user1=Vandorenfm&user2=Gorzaim wikistalk]. They are both interested in the most contentious AA articles like [[Nagorno-Karabakh]], [[Caucasian Albania]] and [[Shusha]] where they support the same side of the debate. Can checkuser say whether Gorzaim and Vandorenfm have used the same IP? [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 14:13, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
::{{likely}}. He edits from different ISPs, but they geolocate to the same general area. There are many overlaps with user agents as well. [[User:J.delanoy|<font color="green">J'''.'''delanoy</font>]][[User Talk:J.delanoy|<sup><font color="red">gabs</font></sup>]][[Special:Contributions/J.delanoy|<font color="blue"><sub>adds</sub></font>]] 23:08, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
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Meowy

Meowy (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki)
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For archived investigations, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Meowy/Archive.

– A checkuser has completed a check on relevant users in this case, and it is now awaiting administration and close.

07 September 2011
Suspected sockpuppets


The user Yerevanci started not very long time ago, on 27 August and seems to be experienced user. All patterns of his edits seem like edits by blocked Meowy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Many articles which User:Yerevanci began editing as soon as he came to Wikipedia are articles which Meowy edited in the past. For example:

1) the article on Whole Azerbaijan, which Meowy was interested in the past [1], [2], [3], especially the image (map) of Azerbaijan [4]. Here, Yerevanci restores the map [5] in the same article.

2) In the article Six vilayets, Meowy is involved with the name [6], and makes specific edits adding "six Armenian vilayets" [7]. Now, look what Yerevanci does [8] redirecting to the name suggested by Meowy.

3) In the article Northern Artsakh, Meowy makes edits [9], [10], [11] with POV text. The article was directed and merged to correct Gardman article, but Meowy who opposed it before now reverted and added text (from Armenian websites only) [12] . I reverted him to the version by administrator Betacommand, but he again reverted to POV version [13] with nationalist comment "why don't you redirect it??? wtf what kind of anti-Armenianism is this??? please do your work". And then he made more edits like this [14].

4) Next article is Nakhchivan which Meowy looks like was very active in: [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25]. As soon as Yerevanci began editing, he made this POV edit [26] too.

5) Another interest for these two users is Greater Armenia (political concept). Edits by Meowy: [27], [28], [29], [30], [31]. Edits by Yerevanci: [32], [33], [34], [35], [36], [37], [38], [39] (deleting large text), [40], [41], [42].  

The edit pattern looks very similar. It is also worth mentioning that the same editing pattern was from Bars77 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) who was found sockpuppet of Xebulon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I don't know if Meowy is Xebulon, but editing patterns between three users match. After Meowy was blocked he used many sockpuppets and they were blocked. The same was seen with Xebulon. Yerevanci also acts like Xebulon because he knows soon he will be found as sockpuppet and tries to make as much POV as he can. Please take this evidence and see if these users are connected.     Dighapet (talk) 15:37, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Wow, see I was right these are bunch of sockpuppets. I also think Hovik95 can be the same blocked Aram-van. Look at the same edits they made: [43] and [44]. They use also the same language and way of editing. Dighapet (talk) 22:03, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Clerk endorsed - Interestingly, Bars77 is blocked as a sock of Hetoum I. I'll endorse for a check between the two socks, but Meowy and all their socks are stale enough that i don't think we can do anything there. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 01:07, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot tell if any of these accounts are related to Meowy, but I think it is  Unlikely that Yerevanci (talk · contribs) and Bars77 (talk · contribs) are related. However, it is  Likely that Hovik95 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki) is related to Yerivanci (see Hovik's deleted edits for recent activity). Still, even if it is related, it appears that the Hovik account has been abandoned, so I don't know if it is worth it to pursue that.

On a more interesting note, at least to me, Bars77 apparently started right back up where he left off, with Vandorenfm (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki). This account made edits from the same IP as Bars77, starting only 20 minutes after the autoblock expired. 30 minutes after that, he began revert-warring on the same page that Bars77 was before he got blocked. I am only giving this much information because the Vandorenfm account has been around for much longer than the Bars77 one has. I at first was not sure if I should say that these accounts are related, but all of the above happening with two users on the same IP address and with the same user agent just seemed way too much to be a coincidence. J.delanoygabsadds 05:10, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Likely. He edits from different ISPs, but they geolocate to the same general area. There are many overlaps with user agents as well. J.delanoygabsadds 23:08, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]