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*'''Decline''' has not reached an apex where arbitration is necessary, and with the block of the account it appears the issue has been resolved, at least temporarily. Not the venue for a usual SPA problem. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</font><sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|talk]]</font>)</small></sup> 17:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' has not reached an apex where arbitration is necessary, and with the block of the account it appears the issue has been resolved, at least temporarily. Not the venue for a usual SPA problem. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</font><sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|talk]]</font>)</small></sup> 17:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. This appears to have worked itself out. Formal Arbcom involvement is likely to just re-ignite the situation just as it calms down.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|<font color="#660066">iridescent</font>]] 17:43, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. This appears to have worked itself out. Formal Arbcom involvement is likely to just re-ignite the situation just as it calms down.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|<font color="#660066">iridescent</font>]] 17:43, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

== Andrei nacu ==
{{anchor|Request concerning Andrei nacu}}
'''Initiated by ''' [[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) '''at''' 00:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

=== Involved parties ===
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*{{userlinks|Codrinb}}, ''filing party''
*{{userlinks|Andrei nacu}}
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;Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAndrei_nacu&action=historysubmit&diff=408306192&oldid=408265835]
*Diff. 2

;Confirmation that other steps in [[Wikipedia:dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] have been tried
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#Constant_personal_attacks_and_harassment_by_Andrei_nacu Incident report]
* An innumerable amount of attempts were done to calm the situation, bring dialogue, collaboration and stop the harassment:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EraNavigator&diff=prev&oldid=407675437]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACostoboci&action=historysubmit&diff=406384172&oldid=406167018]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Codrinb&diff=prev&oldid=407851834]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Codrinb&diff=prev&oldid=407873352]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Codrinb&diff=prev&oldid=407874514]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Codrinb&diff=prev&oldid=407888391]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Codrinb&diff=prev&oldid=407896625]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Codrinb&diff=prev&oldid=407922548]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Codrinb&diff=prev&oldid=40792578]

* A large amount of attempts to calm the situation has been done from the project level:
** Clarifying the scope:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Dacia%2FGoals&action=historysubmit&diff=407896838&oldid=406734844]

** Clarifying the neutrality and position of the project
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dacia/Intro&diff=prev&oldid=407896497]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AEraNavigator&action=historysubmit&diff=407901637&oldid=407862084]

** Invitations to the ''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dacia/Collaboration|collaboration]]'' on various theories regarding Dacian language
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dacian_language&diff=prev&oldid=407596520]

** Some of the invitations to use user space or project [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dacia/Drafts|drafts space]] for high conflict articles, to avoid edit wars and prolong conflict
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACostoboci&action=historysubmit&diff=407709114&oldid=407708205]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACarpi_%28people%29&action=historysubmit&diff=407708695&oldid=407702443]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EraNavigator&diff=prev&oldid=407710213]

=== Statement by Codrinb ===
I am under a never ending stream of severe personal attacks, harassment and false accusations User Andrei_nacu. [[User:Daizus]] and other members of the WikiProject Dacia are facing an similar amount of incivility, personal attacks and false accusations by User Andrei_nacu. The same user is resorting to unfounded labellings, an extreme amount of canvasing and general disruptive behavior after being pointed out this [[Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#File:Roman_Empire_125.png|original research]].

User Andrei_nacu even resorted to [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Pseudo-historical_Protochronistic_and_Dacomanic_tendencies_of_the_Wiki-project_Dacia|reporting]] and labeling the entire project (formed by a very neutral and diverse group people with various backgrounds, origins, interests and beliefs). He went so far that even in that report (and the associated thread) which is suppose to be neutral and to the point, he resorted to false accusations, harassment and a myriad of personal attacks, trying to influence the objective assessment by admins.

* A blatant proof for the enjoyment over extending the conflict indefinitely and as well as personal attack:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EraNavigator&diff=prev&oldid=407656539]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EraNavigator&diff=next&oldid=407702824]

** '''severe''' personal attacks:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAndrei_nacu&action=historysubmit&diff=408054509&oldid=407936494]

** on a '''campaign''' (canvassing) to discredit and remove me:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADahn&action=historysubmit&diff=408201305&oldid=407892598]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Dacia&action=historysubmit&diff=408056353&oldid=408054061]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAndrei_nacu&action=historysubmit&diff=408265835&oldid=408095800]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&action=historysubmit&diff=408262608&oldid=408261297]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&action=historysubmit&diff=408253388&oldid=408247477]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADahn&action=historysubmit&diff=408381312&oldid=407892598]

** and other personal attacks and unfounded claims ignoring all invitations to calm and collaboration (see below):
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Codrinb&diff=prev&oldid=407858543]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AEraNavigator&action=historysubmit&diff=407597540&oldid=407404283]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Codrinb&diff=prev&oldid=407927615]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACodrinb&action=historysubmit&diff=407937124&oldid=407927883]

** even more canvasing, tactics and personal attacks:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADaizus&action=historysubmit&diff=408034004&oldid=408026290]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dahn&curid=3008435&diff=408059105&oldid=408053773]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dahn&diff=prev&oldid=408053701]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EraNavigator&diff=prev&oldid=407656539]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADahn&action=historysubmit&diff=408201305&oldid=407892598]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Dacia&action=historysubmit&diff=408056353&oldid=408054061]

** apologies (tactics?), unfortunately invalidated (including by the reply below) and followed by dozens of other personal attacks:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Codrinb&diff=next&oldid=407874514]

** vandalism on a map, currently under discussion in NOR incident board:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3ARoman_Empire_125.png&action=history]

** also please review this very suspicious vandalism of User:Daizus page:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ADaizus&action=historysubmit&diff=407582728&oldid=106668956] - unknown source, sock puppetry (?) - ''țigan mândru'' means ''proud gipsy'' a very offensive remark, especially when addressed to a Romanian

I reported the personal attacks to the [[Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#Constant_personal_attacks_and_harassment_by_Andrei_nacu|Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts]], however his personal attacks and canvasing continues, including on that report as well.

Personal attacks, false accusations and canvasing continue even after the incident report report:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Dacia&action=historysubmit&diff=408056353&oldid=408054061]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADahn&action=historysubmit&diff=408201305&oldid=407892598]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Dacia&action=historysubmit&diff=408056353&oldid=408054061]

* ''My clarification and position'': I put A LOT of effort in creating [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Dacia]], all with an interest for the subject, an open heart and in good faith. Most of the articles around this subject are incomplete, of low quality and need help organizing their expansion. Many articles are also missing. As I do not claim the best qualifications but just an interest, I have ''actively reached out'' to archaeologists, history professors and other specialists to contribute, none of whom are in any shape or form Dacomans (a pejorative term for certain perceived extremists related to Dacian history research). As a matter of fact these respectable academicians despise ''Dacomania''. I am aware of the high amount of controversy, nationalism, original research and fringe theories which can lurk around this project, given the limited knowledge we have about [[Dacians]]. Still, I had the courage to create such a project in an attempt to bring neutrality and organization, which are ''much needed''. Every single phrase I wrote in the few articles I personally created (see [[Amutria]]) has a valid, verifiable source, of non-Dacomanic origin (if there is such term). And if any source is suspicious, I am open to discuss it constructively in the corresponding article talk page. I have even [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAndrei_nacu&action=historysubmit&diff=401733164&oldid=401486279 invited] User Andrei_nacu in good faith since the first days of the project (December), based on his previous edits. He chose to ignore it, and not bring his view or input, although he obviously has an ''interest'' in the subject. I respected that but his recent actions bring some light as to why he did it. I created the project ''work structure'' (hooked up bots, created sections, tasks, templates etc) which involved a ''lot of work'', but '''by no means''' I assumed the ''leadership'' of the project or I am interested in or embrace any ''dictatorship''. I treat this as a ''collaborative project'', where everyone's ''constructive'' input and participation is welcomed. The people involved in this project, are of various backgrounds, nationalities and have '''different views''' (very welcomed!) over the various ''Dacia'' topics. The project focus is on the [[Paleo-Balkan]] culture, including the Dacians, as described in the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dacia/Goals|scope]]''', without exaggerating in any way the importance of the Dacians or disputing the obvious presence of other nations in the same time and space, or the obvious Roman involvement and the Eastern Romance heritage. The project is not linking in any way Dacians and Romanians nor denies possible links. I am fully aware of many WP policies regarding ownership, civility, original research, neutrality etc and I strive to follow each one of them.

Unfortunately, I also see other users like Fut.Perf., Folantin and Dahn, who invited themselves here, trying to downplay this horrible situation, and unfortunately extend the [[WP:DRAMA]], providing ''free, good faith'' advice to Andrei_nacu on the best ways to discredit me: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAndrei_nacu&action=historysubmit&diff=408403942&oldid=408095800]. I would personally take their statements with a grain of salt.

Given the amount of attacks, the ongoing disinformation campaigns, the discrediting tactics, the alliances created among various users, I think this needs serious review and scrutiny and I believe it is not premature.

I am deeply saddened and offended, under an unwarranted, unfair and never ending harassment which I hope can be stopped.

Thank you
--[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 00:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

:: I am very disgusted by how Wikipedia can be abused and people can be convicted based on '''lies''' and '''disinformation'''. I dare you to give me '''one single diff''' where I am openly supporting and associating myself in any way shape or form with Protochronism and Dacomania. ONE! There are dozens and dozens of situations where I stated the opposite! You were very quick drawing a DIRECT line and put an '''equal sign''' between mere ''interest in Dacian history'' and ''Protochronism'', as soon as you saw the project created. You have created a coalition of hate and an [[inquisition]] to condemn and burn at stake people with an innocent interest in history. You are putting Protochronists, people you superficially label left and right at your own discretion and desire, who are at most incompetent amateur historians on par with [[Nazi Germany]], leading people unaware of the situation to believe that some sort of World World III is about to start under the lead of some Dacomans? You are trying to take the attention from the dozens of obvious attacks by user Andrei nacu, by creating a grotesque and false image of my involvement here. HOW FAR CAN YOU GO? WHAT IS IT POSITIVE AND NEUTRAL IN YOUR ACTIONS?! WHAT IS IT IN LINE WITH WIKIPEDIA POLICIES HERE? YOU ARE THE ONES WHO DISRUPT WIKIPEDIA AND CAUSE CONFLICT! I only been here since December but I am willing to bet that each one of you full of lies and hate rhetoric, ready to throw the stones and pick scape goats, have been involved in conflicts before. You can excuse and hide Andrei nacu's behavior all you want but do not dare to LIE about me! --[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 16:40, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

=== Statement by Andrei nacu ===

I think Codrinb went too far to request the arbitration of our dispute. I believed we could come to terms and I even proposed that we ignore each other from now on. See: [[:Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Pseudo-historical_tendencies_and_false_acussations_of_Wiki-project_Dacia.27s_leader_Codrinb]]

What worries me are Codrin's constant false accusations on me that I a have an interest and I am following a hidden agenda, and that this is the reason behind labelling the Carpi and Costoboci Barbarian tribes as of Uncertain (and not Dacian) origin on my [[:File:Roman_Empire_125.png|Roman Empire map]]. However I did this according to what the Cambridge Ancient History 2nd edition Vols. XI and XII say.

I have never said anything against other neutral and un-biased contributors to the Wiki-project Dacia. I have only questioned Codrinb's Dacomanic Protochronistic beliefs, his constant identification with other contributors ([[:Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Pseudo-historical_tendencies_and_false_acussations_of_Wiki-project_Dacia.27s_leader_Codrinb|here]] and [[:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Dacia#The_template|here]]) and the way he is using the Wiki-project to lay false accusations on me and other users. Also please read the Wiki-project's [[:Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dacia|stance on neutrality]] written by Codrinb which is insulting a reader's intelligence by claiming that the universal ridiculing of Dacomanic [[Protochronism]] in outside sources is somehow wrong or excessive, and amounting to an attempt at destroying Romania's supposedly rich Dacian heritage - never mind that it suggests all those who do not share a pro-Dacian view that is implicitly advertised are "anti-Romanian".

For those of you who are not aware of what our debate is all about, let me draw a parallel between Romanian and Mexican history. The Dacians are to Romanians what the Aztecs are to Mexicans. Promoting the Aztecs, their supposedly rich and highly advanced culture and spirituality (while ignoring their ritual human sacrificies), and their firm unaltered links with modern ethnic Mexicans would make you an Aztecoman. An Aztecoman would also deny, partialy or completely, the unquestionable Spanish and Christian origins of modern Mexico and would even go so far as to accuse you of not being a Mexican patriot because of your lack of enthusiasm for Aztec-biased ideas and tendencies.

Codrib is using the Wiki-project he started as a Trojan horse against what he believes are users having hidden (presumably anti-Romanian) agendas. However I feel deeply offended as a Romanaian by his statements and I think he is instead trying to paint an iddylic and highly biased history of the Dacians, a people noted for their illiteracy and human sacrifices in the name of their all-mighty deity [[Zalmoxis]]. Drawing any forceful ethnic or cultural connections between ancient Dacians and modern Romanians is an attemp to deny Romania's Eastern Roman legacy, neo-Latin official language and Christian character.

Thank you for paying attention to my statement.

[[User:Andrei nacu|Andrei]] ([[User talk:Andrei nacu|talk]]) 10:40, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Can someone help me to learn how to make use of those diffs Codrinb is using? Thanks.

[[User:Andrei nacu|Andrei]] ([[User talk:Andrei nacu|talk]]) 11:26, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Jesus, disinformation campaigns, discrediting tactics, alliances amongst other users? What are you talking about Codrinb?

[[User:Andrei nacu|Andrei]] ([[User talk:Andrei nacu|talk]]) 17:55, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

=== Statement by Fut.Perf. ===

This is premature. True, there is a real issue to be solved (in my perception, Andrei nacu may have engaged in some OR in a certain corner; Codrinb has annoyed a couple of people through what has been perceived as instrumentalizing the wikiproject he created with some personal POV disputes of his own; and the disagreement has lately escalated on a personal level between these two users), but this is all far from Arbcom level. Some of this might be solveable through mediation. If conduct issues become too serious, it shouldn't be too difficult to get them contained on the admin level (we are inside [[WP:ARBMAC]] territory, after all.) A case will help nobody. [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 11:07, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

=== Statement by Folantin ===

What Future Perfect says. This is premature. It's just forum-shopping by Codrinb. This issue has already been raised at WQA and ANI within the past couple of days. In my short acquaintance with him on Wikipedia I've noted that Codrinb has a rather dubious tendency to try to resolve content issues in his favour by templating his opponents, accusing them of vandalism, edit-warring, harassment or other misdemeanours. I also have my doubts as to his objectivity regarding Dacomania/[[Protochronism]] (a fringe nationalist ideology once promoted by the [[Nicolae Ceauşescu|Ceauşescu]] regime in Romania) as well as [[WP:OWN|ownership]] problems with WikiProject:Dacia. But it's still early days...The arbs should probably advise Codrinb against indulging in vexatious litigation and that's about it. --[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 12:47, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
:'''Update''' We've just had a perfect example of Codrinb's tendency to melodramatic inflation in action. Further up the page he's just accused me of "providing free, good faith advice to Andrei_nacu on the best ways to discredit me" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAndrei_nacu&action=historysubmit&diff=408403942&oldid=408095800] and being part of a conspiracy against him. All I did was point Andrei Nacu to the [[Wikipedia:Complete diff and link guide]] so he could format his statement properly after he asked on this page: "Can someone help me to learn how to make use of those diffs Codrinb is using? Thanks." Likewise, as far as I can tell, English Wikipedia interaction between Codrinb and Andrei Nacu goes all the way back to January 12 this year (i.e. last Wednesday) which puts Codrin's accusation of "never ending harassment" in perspective. --[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 16:34, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

=== Statement by Roninbk ===
I have been an somewhat uninvolved editor here, having only come into contact with this dispute through the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dacian script]]. I have been in contact with both parties in this conflict through conversations on my talk page, [[User talk:Roninbk#WikiProject Dacia scope clarifications and disclaimer]] as well as through an incident on the AN/I [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Pseudo-historical tendencies and false acussations of Wiki-project Dacia's leader Codrinb]]. I have attempted to help defuse the Civility issues between both sides. Though it was not through any formal process, I respectfully submit my involvement as an attempt to satisfy the [[Wikipedia:Third opinion]] step of the dispute resolution process.

Now I have no opinion on the content dispute portion of this case; I couldn't tell you the difference between Protochronism and Protozoa. Regarding Andre nacu's claims that Dacomanic theories have no place in Wikipedia, I did attempt to point out that there is a proper place for fringe theories within Wikipedia, as long as said theories are not given undue weight. I also pointed out that one of the goals of a Dacia WikiProject can and should be making sure that said points of view are balanced. One of the points I brought up in AfD is that merely adding weasel words such as "so-called" does not correct NPOV issues, and in fact makes the issues worse. In the Protochronism article alone, there are POV-laden assertions such as "largely relying on questionable data and subjective interpretations," that I find highly problematic.

If this RFAR is premature, I will accept a portion of the blame; in the conversation on my talk page I believe I may have been the first to bring up the possibility that this case may eventually result in an RFAR. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Roninbk&diff=prev&oldid=408070280] It was not my intention however to suggest that other dispute resolution steps should be bypassed. --<span style="border:1px solid #63B8FF; font-weight:bold; color:#23238E; background-color:#D0E7FF;"> [[User:Roninbk|RoninBK]] <sub> [[User talk:Roninbk|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Roninbk|C]] </sub> </span> 17:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

=== Statement by uninvolved (and mildly confused) The Wordsmith ===
If I understand this request, it is a content and conduct dispute between several editors on articles roughly related to Romania (whew, try saying that five times fast!). Romania is generally considered to be an eastern European nation. Is there any reason [[WP:DIGWUREN|Digwuren discretionary sanctions]] couldn't be applied? Seems like we need some uninvolved admins to take a good, hard look at this dispute and sort it out. No need to waste the Committee's time when the community could handle it just as easily. <span style="font-family:Courier New;font-size:3">[[User:The Wordsmith|'''The Wordsmith''']]</span><sup>[[User talk:The Wordsmith|Communicate]]</sup> 04:20, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

===Statement by Dahn===
It is easy to lose track of the actual issue here, and I suspect that is what one of the parties in this debate is pursuing. To begin with, let me state that the promotion of Protochronism through WikiProject Dacia has been identified as a risk factor by various who commented on Codrinb's managing of the project, including, as far as I can discern, at least one participant in that project. We are not talking about a benign theory, we are talking about a Romanian equivalent of the [[Aryan race]] theory - something that is ''universally'' discredited in academia, was supported officially by several totalitarian regimes, and is only taken up by amateurs. Codrinb has repeatedly stated his support for Protochronist ideas in the recent past, throughout the time he created and promoted the project, and claims to have himself deescalated the issue by making it seem like all project users have signed up to a statement of purpose - which tellingly begins with condemning Protochronism, and then goes one to theorize that "anti-Protochronism" is equally wrong. This suggests Codringb's fringe agenda, in his own words (see the statement made at the top of the project page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dacia&oldid=407896957 in this version]; see [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dacia#The template|the objection here]]). To this goal, he has also promoted the highly dubious term "Dacology" and created [[Dacology|the corresponding article]] (see its talk page for the controversy involving third-parties). The promotion of such ideas is a problem for wikipedia, whichever way you look at it; the creation of a wikiproject ''to'' promote such ideas is even more so. The proliferation of endless faux requests for admin intervention in Codrinb's favor, supported with countless copypasted and irrelevant diffs (for instance, the claim that personal attacks took place where none can be cited), is disruptive. I am going to leave out from the discussion Codrinb's own history of incivility and self-admitted stalking, because it is off-topic here, but I will note that even now the WikiProject Dacia statement of purpose implies that all who disagree with "Dacology" are "anti-Romanian".

Now, the flood of rhetoric and the simultaneous cases opened up by Codrinb may yet leave wikipedians with the impression that there is something substantial in his claims and his arguments. Let me assure you: there isn't. Let me assure those who note that the article on [[Protochronism]] has POV problems - while it is not without problems, it does do something Codrinb cannot disprove: it reflects scholarly opinion, including in describing how Protochronism relies on dubious data (all is verifiable, from the sources used and many more). Let me assure those who see this as a Digwuren situation: the controversy may be between East Europeans, but they're all from within the same culture; what's more significant, by all accounts, there is only one party here with a serious ownership and edit-war pattern, who was also repeatedly identified as the with the WP:FRINGE agenda. That user is not Andrei nacu. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] ([[User talk:Dahn|talk]]) 10:55, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

===Enforcement notes===
I have notified Codrinb of [[WP:DIGWUREN]]. Their behavior stands out as the most problematic. I have purposefully not notified any other editors. Please don't fall into the trap of [[moral equivalence]]. When two people are arguing, it does not follow that we should sanction them both for arguing. No, we should decide who's being reasonable, who's being unreasonable, and then selectively hand out sanctions. To that end, Dahn's reasoning seems to be logical. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 13:39, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

=== Clerk notes ===
:''This area is used for notes by non-recused Clerks.''

=== Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (0/9/1/1) ===
*Waiting for further statements. I note that other than the WQA, no other formal DR options have been done. This presents a higher barrier to accepting a case, and I would like to see parties who wish this case too be accepted address that in their statements. [[User:SirFozzie|SirFozzie]] ([[User talk:SirFozzie|talk]]) 08:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
*This appears to be premature. All the diffs are from the last week or so, and there is no history of dispute resolution. '''Decline''' if this case were to go ahead, [[WP:BOOMERANG]] would appear to be the most likely outcome. I recommend that the filing party make use of discussion and mediation o avoid such a prospect --[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 12:04, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. It looks like this can be resolved without Arbitration; there are a number of good suggestions in the statements here. [[User:Shell_Kinney|Shell]] <sup>[[User_talk:Shell_Kinney|babelfish]]</sup> 20:43, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' as premature. Suggest having a look at [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution]] - there are several different kinds of dispute resolution that could be useful. You've already tried [[WP:WQA]], and if there are serious conduct problems, you could try a [[WP:RFC/USER|Request for Comment on user conduct]]. If you consider there are also content disagreements which need resolution, then you could obtain a [[WP:3O|Third Opinion]] or try [[WP:MEDCAB|informal mediation]]. [[User:PhilKnight|PhilKnight]] ([[User talk:PhilKnight|talk]]) 23:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
*I too will vote to '''decline''' at this time, in the hopes that this issue can be resolved short of arbitration, which is a lengthy and contentious process. To the parties, please note that this does not mean that your dispute is unimportant to us, but simply that we don't believe arbitration is the best way to resolve it. It would be useful if an uninvolved administrator could offer to intervene and steer the parties in the path toward dispute resolution. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 23:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' per Newyorkbrad. [[User:Risker|Risker]] ([[User talk:Risker|talk]]) 00:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' per all preceding really. [[User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[User talk:Casliber|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 02:25, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. - [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 08:38, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
*'''Recuse''' due to [[User_talk:Xenobot_Mk_V/requests#WP:DACIA|peripheral involvement]]. –[[user:xeno|<font face="verdana" color="black">'''xeno'''</font>]][[user talk:xeno|<font color="black"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 18:49, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</font><sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|talk]]</font>)</small></sup> 19:07, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''. As Brad almost says, this is one of those situations where arbitration will just make things worse. Arbcom is a last, not a first, resort.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|<font color="#660066">iridescent</font>]] 17:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Revision as of 01:32, 24 January 2011

Arbitration Committee proceedings
Request name Motions Initiated Votes
Envision EMI, LLC   22 January 2011 {{{votes}}}
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Open cases
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Conflict of interest management 13 Apr 2024
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Amendment request: Conduct in deletion-related editing none (orig. case) 30 April 2024
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No arbitrator motions are currently open.

Requests for arbitration



Envision EMI, LLC

Initiated by -- btphelps (talk) (contribs) at 06:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Involved parties

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request

Arbitration request pending

Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
  • [1] User Ladyj40781 reverted his changes leaving comments on the talk page.
  • [2] Content was removed by user:Alawhat as "This section was essentially advertising and not encyclopaedic content."
  • [3] Reverted content added by Ladyj40781 based on sources not qualified as a reliable source
  • [4] Reverted quote added by Ladyj40781 from an employee of the article subject
  • [5] Reverted quote added by Ladyj40781 from an employee of the article subject a second time
  • [6] Reverted changes by Ladyj40781 when she moved content from the lede that summarized the article content. Being a new editor, she did not apparently understand the purpose of the lede.
  • [7] Removed content added by Ladyj40781 because "Content from the company's web site(s) is not a reliable source and constitutes a conflict of interest. She was apparently unaware that sources should not be self-serving.
  • [8] Removed content added by Ladyj40781 which was misquoted as from Donna Mills, but was from Beth Schultz, director of the NYLF forum, an employee of Envision EMI, which constitutes a self-serving reference. Moved student/parent praise added by Ladyj40781 from "Recognition" section and created new section "Student praise"

Statement by btphelps

To the best of my understanding, the parent and student praise content seems to comprise advocacy and opinion on the part of Ladyj40781, who believes this is a good program and felt the reporting about the company's legal challenges made the article too negative. She sought out and has added thus far 11 quotes of parent and student praise. The user Ladyj40781 and I have had some challenges working out our differences previously, as noted in the diffs above. I have tried to work with her and striven to avoid biting the newcomer. Although I didn't find the student/parent praise section particularly noteworthy, I let it remain. When user:Alawhat removed the content, I agreed with his action, and she reverted it. To avoid a possible edit war, and to minimize antagonizing a new editor, I am requesting arbitration. Thanks for your input.

Statement by Ladyj40781

Statement by Timotheus Canens

It seems quite obvious to me that Ladyj40781 (talk · contribs) is a single-purpose account that is here for the sole purpose of promoting Envision EMI, LLC in a manner inconsistent with our policies and guidelines and the basic purpose of Wikipedia. Accordingly, I have blocked that account indefinitely. No arbitration seems necessary, and an WP:ANI report probably would have sufficed. T. Canens (talk) 07:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk notes

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Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (0/4/0/0)

  • Speedy Decline Looks like this has been handled at the lower levels. SirFozzie (talk) 08:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Decline. Arbitration is not required here. I do hope that the situation can potentially be salvaged so that we gain some useful content out of this editor, but I don't think the committee can help get there; we will have to see if there is an unblock request posted and work from there. Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Decline has not reached an apex where arbitration is necessary, and with the block of the account it appears the issue has been resolved, at least temporarily. Not the venue for a usual SPA problem. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 17:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Decline. This appears to have worked itself out. Formal Arbcom involvement is likely to just re-ignite the situation just as it calms down. – iridescent 17:43, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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