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Chaim Pinchas Lubinsky

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I almost passed it but the sources gave me the pause - with such unclear sources, this could be a hoax. Now, I don't think it is, but while looking for the sources, no English sources seem to discuss him outside a few websites that don't look very reliable. If there are mentions on books, they are inaccessible to me, and Google Scholar and News have nothing. Now, there may be something in Hebrew or Yddish, but the he wiki article was also recently created by the same relatively new account, and the clincher is, the subject seems to fail WP:ANYBIO and Wikipedia:Notability (priests) which says "The Chief Rabbis of nation states with large Jewish communities are notable by virtue of their status." Well, he was chief rabbi of a city, and overall I am afraid this reads like a WP:OBIT of a non-notable priest. Thoughts? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:36, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:36, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:36, 19 August newspaper articled 2020 (UTC)

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• Keep The name is commonly spelt Lubinski as here, for example. Maybe the title needs work but deletion would be premature when we haven't even got the name variants clear yet. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:29, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
  • You are right that the -i variant of his name seems to be more popular (assuming we are talking about the same person). But I reviewed the sources for the -i variant right now and sadly I don't see anything to work with, either. But by all means, if we can find some good sources and salvage it, it would be good for everyone. But if the current biography is comprehensive, than the likely problem is that he just did not do anything notable in his life... Not all rabbis are notable, per cited guidelines, and this so far appears to be the case here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:37, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:11, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

• Keep Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus & AleatoryPonderings #1) The man spelled his name "Lubinsky" as opposed to "Lubinski", so I used his spelling. #2) You will see that I used "Zichron Chaim Pinchas, 1986 Brooklyn NY" as reference numerous times throughout the article. "Zichron Chaim Pinchas" was a book published by Rabbi Lubinsky's family on the first anniversary of his death. It is mostly in hebrew and yiddish, however, in the back of the book they published a collection of 9 newspaper articles (some in English) that were written about Rabbi Lubinsky. Unfortunately, they didn't indicate which newspapers these clippings were taken from so I could not quote the initial source as reference. Regardless, it certainly isn't a "hoax". In general, in the immediate aftermath of the holocaust, there were tens of thousands of survivors in the area and the Jewish community in Hannover - at that time - was notable. I also don't think that English articles on the internet should be the litmus test of whether person is notable enough, when we are dealing with a "Polish" born person who was a notable Rabbi in "Germany" and was a member of a "Yiddish" speaking community --Steamboat2020 (talk) 15:39, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
  • @Steamboat2020: Non-English sources are perfectly acceptable, but they still need to pass WP:RS. A book published (WP:SELFPUBLISHed?) by a family tends to run afoul of the WP:GNG requirement of indepdence of sources (see also WP:NOTOBITUARY). If it contains excerots from reliable newspapers, however, that can help. Have you tried looking at newspapers.com and such? You can get access to them through the WP:LIBRARY, IIRC. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:06, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Comment - Can someone explain in more detail how this person meets WP:Notability (biographies), please? - GizzyCatBella🍁 09:09, 20 August 2020 (UTC) Keep this great scholar and rebbe! Lubinski was a Polish Holocaust survivor and lost his wife at Stutthof. In the immediate aftermath of the war he was instrumental in rebuilding the spiritual life of Jewish Polish refugees who fled the pogroms in Poland to the Bergen-Belsen refugee camp in the British occupation zone. Much has been written on this great scholar: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9]