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Impact of the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami on the video game industry

Impact of the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami on the video game industry (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

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The earthquake is having an impact on all sorts of industries. Giving undue attention to the video game industry is not a neutral point of view. Colonel Warden (talk) 23:20, 17 March 2011 (UTC) Colonel Warden (talk) 23:20, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

• Keep - First, you did this way wrong. You nominated the talkpage for deletion. I think someone who nominated so many articles for deletion would not have made this mistake. Secondly, we were having a merge discussion on the talkpage of the article, so it is somewhat disruptive to cut off that discussion and start a new one. Thirdly, there are plenty of sources covering this, and it meets notability requirements. Just because WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST doesn't mean this shouldn't. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 23:26, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
• Keep. Am I to understand that I am obligated to not make this article if other editors have failed to make articles for their respective industries? All content is verified by reliable sources, and fulfills the notability criteria. I also must strongly criticize the fact that you are proposing the deletion of legitimate content instead of contributing to the discussion of whether to merge into a general entertainment industry impact article or an economic impact article. And I must further point out that efforts have been made to make articles about other industries. Additionally, NPOV has nothing to do with the existence of articles. The nutshell description: "This page in a nutshell: Editors must write articles from a neutral point of view, representing all significant views fairly, proportionately, and without bias." The article is from a neutral point of view, it represents all significant views fairly, proportionately, and without bias. We are not giving our own personal POVs in this article. All content is verified and focuses on the reliable sources' POV and determination of notability. If we had no articles on PlayStation 2 games and many on Wii games, would that be undue weight? No, it would just mean that editors have no taken the initiative to cover other aspects. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 23:26, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

• The article cannot be considered in isolation as it is a fork of the main article about the earthquake. WP:UNDUE states "An article should not give undue weight to any aspects of the subject but should strive to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to its significance to the subject. For example, discussion of isolated events, criticisms, or news reports about a subject may be verifiable and neutral, but still be disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic. This is a concern especially in relation to recent events that may be in the news.". The main article says nothing at all about the impact on the videogames industry. If that is the correct proportion of significance then it is disproportionate to have a whole article about this minor detail. Colonel Warden (talk) 00:02, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
  • We can verify that it is not minor by the significant coverage that it has received. That it is not covered in any main article is due to the fact that no one has taken the initiative to do so yet. It is clearly verifiable and notable, so the only problem is that no one has taken the initiative to add to the main article, not that the main article has no place for mention of this content. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 00:10, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

• Keep - In addition to the above arguments, it seems that the nominator has gotten the WP policy on this wrong. There is not a risk of WP:UNDUE to all of Wikipidia because some articles exist and others do not. The criterium should be notability of the subject. In my mind, this subject has been covered extensively by many well reputed and major RSs, and it's notability is established.LedRush (talk) 23:31, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

• Strong Keep - per above arguments. EelamStyleZ (talk) 00:05, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

• Delete Am I even allowed to vote? I don't know, but the article should be deleted on the basis of its enduring notability. The fact that video game releases were delayed, game servers were down, and share prices fell are all facts any reasonably knowledgeable person could pretty much deduce without being told. It's effectively a recap of recent business news. WP:NOTNEWS 24.69.71.254 (talk) 00:13, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
  • You are allowed to vote yes, though I must note that this is not a vote but a debate where the final result will be weighed on the evidence provided. There are industry experts speculating on the long-term effect of the disaster, verifying that this article will more likely have enduring notability than not; and there is content on contributions from the industry for the relief effort, which has nothing to do with business news. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 00:16, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
    • Thank you for helping me understand this process. But with respect, news of contributions from businesses to disaster relief IS business news. As well as turning a profit, it is a normal function of businesses to donate to charitable causes. 24.69.71.254 (talk) 00:33, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
      • A number of the donations were zero profit - Zynga, Capcom, and Sega all assigned all profits made from specific products or games to donations for the tsunami relief. Additionally, an individual member of Game Informer is auctioning her autographed Nintendo DS for a sum that will be donated to the fund, which is irrelevant to business. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 00:37, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
        • But news of an individual making a charitable contribution is relevant to Wikipedia??? I am afraid I have wasted too much time on this today so I think I will simply finish by saying it is normal to expect that the operations of business be disrupted in the event of a natural disaster. This is notable enough for a news article, but not an encyclopaedia article. 24.69.71.254 (talk) 00:47, 18 March 2011 (UTC)