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*'''Merge and Redirect''' to [[Calpe#History]]. The enslavement of 315 Spaniards ought to be a significant event, but we have so little detail or background in this article that it cannot be kept as a free-standing article, unless expanded to provide context or merged with an article on Algerian slave-raiding in Spain (or Europe). However merging is a viable option. At an earlier date the village had a population of only 350 people, so that the effect must have been to reduce its size considerably. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 18:04, 21 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Fails GNG and NEVENT. Sources in article and found in before are not WP:SIGCOV, addressing the subject directly and indepth.
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Comments Source Fails SIGCOV. Article event took place in 1637, book covers 1735-1830, has one sentence mention 1. Bekkaoui, K. (2010-11-24). White Women Captives in North Africa: Narratives of Enslavement, 1735-1830. Springer. p. 2. ISBN 978-0-230-29449-3. Fails SIGCOV, a one sentence mention 2. ^ Street, Lucie (1986). An Uncommon Sailor: A Portrait of Admiral Sir William Penn, English Naval Supremacy. Kensal Press. ISBN 978-0-946041-47-3. Fails SIGCOV, a one sentence mention 3. ^ Friedman, Ellen G. (1983). Spanish Captives in North Africa in the Early Modern Age. University of Wisconsin Press. ISBN 978-0-299-09380-8. Fails SIGCOV, again a mention, nothing about the event 4. ^ Hershenzon, Daniel (2018-08-01). The Captive Sea: Slavery, Communication, and Commerce in Early Modern Spain and the Mediterranean. University of Pennsylvania Press. ISBN 978-0-8122-9536-8.
- Ping me if WP:THREE with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth about the event are found. No objection to a consensus redirect, but only properly sourced material should be merged. // Timothy :: talk 03:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge and Redirect to Calpe#History as an WP:ATD. Jfire (talk) 05:07, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, History, Military, Algeria, and Spain. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- First i would like to adress these sources
- [1]: "In the Same year the Algerians raided the Spanish Village of Calpe taking 315 Captives mostly women and children.
- (this has no doubt a connection the event as it says the same year as Raid on Ceriale and Borghetto, which i made aswell (they both happend in 1637)
- [2]: "In 1637, Calpe, The coasts of Valencia was razed to the group by corsairs" now sure, you might say there is no saying of Algerians, but its most likely [[Corsairs of Algiers|Algerian Corsairs], we also see help from the moors which helps make this more clear.
- [3]: "Calpe in Valencia was Attacked by Algerian Corsairs" here we see a clear taking of algerian corsairs not only, that in the August of 1637, the Viceroy of Valencia found out about the raid on calpe.
- [4]: i admit, here we only have one small mention of the raid, but it gives a deciption of what type of ship was used 'Galleys' that is, but i would understand the removal of this.
- ⵟⵓⵔⴽⵉⵙⵀⴽⴰⴱⵢⵍ (talk) 09:18, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- " ⵟⵓⵔⴽⵉⵙⵀⴽⴰⴱⵢⵍ (talk) 09:18, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge and Redirect to Calpe#History. The enslavement of 315 Spaniards ought to be a significant event, but we have so little detail or background in this article that it cannot be kept as a free-standing article, unless expanded to provide context or merged with an article on Algerian slave-raiding in Spain (or Europe). However merging is a viable option. At an earlier date the village had a population of only 350 people, so that the effect must have been to reduce its size considerably. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:04, 21 January 2024 (UTC)