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The IPs were blocked yesterday, so the discussion appears to be moot. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 16:42, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
The IPs were blocked yesterday, so the discussion appears to be moot. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 16:42, 9 February 2015 (UTC)


* '''For the record''', the IPs were blocked and the articles protected ''before'' this SPI was launched. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=646126458&oldid=646125341] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=646127004&oldid=646126838] Unfortunately, this vacuous SPI appears to have been filed out of spite against Steeletrap, who sassed MrX at the ANI. [[User:SPECIFICO |<font color ="0011FF"> '''SPECIFICO'''</font>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']] 20:03, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
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*The three listed IPs have been blocked as the result of an AN/I discussion, so I am closing this case '''without additional comment as to the socking allegations'''. <span style="font-family:Sylfaen;color:white;background:black;padding:0 3px;">☺&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User:Salvidrim!|<span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><span style="color:white">Salvidrim!</span></span>]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:Salvidrim!|<span style="color:white">&#9993;</span>]]</span> 06:20, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
*The three listed IPs have been blocked as the result of an AN/I discussion, so I am closing this case '''without additional comment as to the socking allegations'''. <span style="font-family:Sylfaen;color:white;background:black;padding:0 3px;">☺&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User:Salvidrim!|<span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><span style="color:white">Salvidrim!</span></span>]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:Salvidrim!|<span style="color:white">&#9993;</span>]]</span> 06:20, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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Steeletrap

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09 February 2015

– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.

Suspected sockpuppets


It is my belief that Steeletrap (who was retired until a few hours ago) has used an IP to evade scrutiny in order to re-ignite a campaign of harassment against Binksternet. Steeletrap has previously been called to account for harassment here. Yesterday, an IP 88.88.22.29 posted comments on Binksternet's talk page similar in tone and style to comments previously posted by Steeletrap on the same page.

Behavioral evidence

The following behavioral evidence is common to both users. Obviously I am not claiming that all evidence is necessarily exclusive to these users.

Behavioral Evidence 88.88.22.29 Steeletrap 80.212.111.41 88.88.36.157
Refers to Binksternet as Binkie or Binky [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
Refers to Wikipedia as WP [11] [12] [13] [14] [15]
Frequent use of quote marks, often mixing single and double quotes in the same comment [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23]
Leaves a space between the colon(s) and text when posting threaded comments [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29]
Edited one or more economist biographies (IPs made the same edit) [30] [31] [32] [33] [34]

- MrX 00:46, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Change of diction
  • All of 88.88.22.29 comments from then on seemed to be straining to appear less proficient at English and at Wikipedia,
Summary

The hounding of a specific user using a specific diminutive nickname, style similarities, and a rapid decent from near-perfect English to near-incoherency, could all be amazing coincidences but  Sounds like a duck quacking into a megaphone to me- MrX 15:34, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

MrX, it is important to be very careful and clear in making Noticeboard declamations concerning other editors. The ANI to which you link was much fury signifying nothing. While Steeletrap was accused of various misbehavior (and conceded having erred in at least one respect in her interactions with Binksternet,) the thread ended with no finding and no action taken by the Community. In my opinion it is misleading to state that Steeletrap was "called to account for harassment." By their nature all ANI threads begin with a concern or complaint but your statement is a WP:Weasel which does not help resolve the matter you have raised here. SPECIFICO talk 01:16, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If we are to accept circumstantial evidence such as the above, we need to see a reasoned attempt to quantify the relative frequencies of those behaviors among WP editors. For example, there are hundreds of thousands of uses of WP to refer to WP. There are at least many thousands of pairs of editors who have done so. In order to draw any meaningful inference from the observations referenced in this table, we need at the very least to know the probabilities of finding such behavior in the population. SPECIFICO talk 02:06, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
On the basis of what's in this table, one cannot even conclude that the IP's behave similarly. BTW, thousands of WP editors leave a space after a colon in a threaded discussion. SPECIFICO talk 03:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This link cited by MrX to an edit by one of the IPs presents a highly distinctive style, language, and use of abbreviation. MrX, can you cite various posts by Steeletrap that are written in a similar style or tone? SPECIFICO talk 03:48, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
100,000 easy to find instances of "WP": [36] [37] [38] [39] [40]
MrX, please consider my comments above concerning the need to quantify what you claim are unlikely events. You continue to omit any such standard from your accusations. Please also consider the following comment concerning probabilistic inference and independence of events. SPECIFICO talk 16:10, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The IP has already been blocked, so it will not be repeating its misdeeds. Clearly the IP was irked by Binksternet and I would not be surprised if the IP therefore checked Bink's history, logs, noticeboard appearances and saw that Bink has repeatedly been irked by and admonished editors who used the forbidden diminutive version of his username. It's guaranteed to annoy Binksternet, and various editors have used it to that effect. The evidence presented by MrX doesn't provide independent observations of the nickname. Quite the opposite. The IP could in fact be expected to find that name in the archives, see Binksternet's reaction, and use it to annoy him. This purported evidence does not show independent events the similarity of which which might arguably be cited as evidence of a common origin. SPECIFICO talk 16:10, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Quotation marks are found in millions of talk page and noticeboard edits by tens of thousands of editors. I see no evidence presented to substantiate the assertion that Steeletrap is a "frequent" user, nor that she "often" mixes single and double marks. Probabilistic statements about relative frequencies should be defined, estimated, and compared with the population. SPECIFICO talk 21:21, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The evidence is pathetic and OP needs to be banned for egregiously breaching WP:Competence. The IPs edit articles I have no interest in. He edits from a country I have never visited. And he speaks in a tone utterly distinct from mine.
My "harassment" charge against Binksternet was dismissed without any sanctions being leveled against me; the charge was predicated on my calling him "Binky." I do think Bink is a bad force for WP--and before I was forbidden from doing so under penalty of death, I liked teasing him and calling him the b-word--but I have no desire to harass him. He seems like a perfectly nice guy and does not deserve to be harassed--harassment, digital or not, is serious shit. Incidentally, many other other WP editors have teased Bink by use of the b-word. Steeletrap (talk) 07:17, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
My econ edits are largely confined to Austrian economists. Strauss-Kahn is better known as a public figure than as an economist. What pathetic evidence. Mister X needs a WP:Competence check. Steeletrap (talk) 07:20, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the idea that our writing styles are similar is laughable. This guy's English is pretty coarse, which is scarcely surprising given that it's almost certainly a second language. Steeletrap (talk) 07:22, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Successful demonstration that the IPs are likely to be one person, no real behavioural evidence that they are Steeletrap. A huge number of people use "WP" instead of mistyping Wikipedia all the time. A relatively huge number of people start comments with a space after a colon. The evidence would equally point to me as being Steeletrap, which unfortunately suggests that while the IPs are certainly one person, they ain't all that likely to be me or Steeletrap. Collect (talk) 14:59, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The IPs were blocked yesterday, so the discussion appears to be moot. TFD (talk) 16:42, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • For the record, the IPs were blocked and the articles protected before this SPI was launched. [41] [42] Unfortunately, this vacuous SPI appears to have been filed out of spite against Steeletrap, who sassed MrX at the ANI. SPECIFICO talk 20:03, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
  • The three listed IPs have been blocked as the result of an AN/I discussion, so I am closing this case without additional comment as to the socking allegations. ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  06:20, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]