Talk:Hurricane Henri

Hurricane Henri has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: February 22, 2023. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Hurricane Henri appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 March 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Hurricane Henri, a minimal category 1 hurricane, set a rainfall record in New York City's Central Park?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hurricane Henri.

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If something should be added in

https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1429431172367536129 This tweet indicated that New York City has had their most hourly rainfall ever as a result of henri. If anyone could add it in that would be good — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.18.104.121 (talk • contribs) at 13:28, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 moniker

Should the title have the 2021 moniker, since there was another Hurricane Henri decades earlier? INeedSupport ^😷 01:04, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Likely a remnant from an earlier name. It is the most notable Hurricane with the name based on deaths and destruction, so it likely does not need the year. Based on other articles, if the name gets retired, then it doesn't use a year at all. (Not sure if that is official policy or just preference.) --Super Goku V (talk) 12:12, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The move log said that it was clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC which I do agree with. Planets For Life 19:56, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fred?

In the section on Massachusetts, what does "The tree fell due to saturated grounds from Fred" mean? Who or what is Fred?

Tropical Storm Fred (2021), which went though the region several days ago, late in its existence. Drdpw (talk) 01:27, 23 August 2021 (UTC) Thank you. I edited it to "the remnants of" because Fred was downgraded from a tropical storm to a tropical depression by the time it reached Georgia. It did remain somewhat organized at least until Pennsylvania and caused rain in the Northeast.[reply]

Deaths

How many deaths were there? 26zhangi (talk) 22:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

At least 2, there were 2 in North Carolina due to rip currents though there are most likely more as the storm was closer to the following states: Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. Planets For Life 16:00, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Henri Damage

Would this source be accepted? It states that Henri's damage is estimated to be between $8-12 billion dollars. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/08/24/henri-heads-out-sea-leaving-behind-12-billion-damage-northeast/8253458002/

Anterograde impacts via Ida

Should we mention in this article the impact that Henri had by setting the stage for the extreme flooding caused by Ida shortly afterwards? It's been frequently mentioned in discussions of Ida that the ground saturation caused by Henri was a major factor in the extreme severity of the flash flooding caused by the following storm. It's difficult or impossible to actually quantify this effect and not justified to actually attribute Ida's damage directly to Henri, but it does seem worthwhile to mention. Mvhcmaniac (talk) 19:36, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA

I may nominate this for a GA once the "issues" have been fixed. Just a note. Sarrail (talk) 01:30, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Henri/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: LunaEatsTuna (talk · contribs) 00:23, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I plan to review this tonight. Note this is my first weather-related review, so I apologise in advance for any obvious mistakes. ツLunaEatsTuna (💬)— 00:23, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Placing this on hold for now. I will be able to do the spotcheck tomorrow. ツLunaEatsTuna (💬)— 04:53, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

LunaEatsTuna, I'm done with the suggestions you addressed, I'll wait on the references, but other than that, it looks good! Tails Wx 14:50, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay! I think everything looks good to go. I am now pleased to pass this article for GA status per your changes implemented. Congrats on a fantastic GA! ツLunaEatsTuna (💬)— 17:44, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio check

"500 line crews and more than 200 street crews were" is pretty closely paraphrased from its source.

Earwig says everything else is good to go.

Noted, will change. Tails Wx 13:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done, though I'm not entirely confident in the change, I'll leave it up to you here. Tails Wx 14:49, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It looks good to me! ツLunaEatsTuna (💬)— 17:31, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Files

All images are relevant, of high quality, and copyright-free:

File:Henri 2021-08-21 1805Z.jpg: valid public domain rationale;

File:Henri 2021 track.png: valid public domain rationale;

File:Henri 2021-08-17 1514Z.jpg: valid public domain rationale;

File:Henri 2021-08-22 1525Z.jpg: valid public domain rationale.

Noted, thanks! Tails Wx 13:19, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

Lead

"of the 2021 Atlantic hurricane season. Henri developed" – period should be a comma.
Done! Tails Wx 13:22, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Eventually, Henri strengthened into a Category 1 hurricane," – the last sentence used soon after, so I would recommend putting a date for this.
Done! Tails Wx 13:22, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The second paragraph is really short and should be merged into the above. If it looks too long than perhaps the first few sentences of the lead could be made into their own paragraph, and the second paragraph could contain just the storm's history?
Merged! Tails Wx 13:22, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikilink New England for the convince of non-American readers.
Done! Tails Wx 13:22, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"including cities such as New York City and Boston" – recommend just "New York" as this sentence already makes it clear that it is about the city.
Done! Tails Wx 13:22, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Meteorological history

"That day, the National Hurricane Center" – recommend "That same day" – IMO it flows much better.
Done! Tails Wx 13:22, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Early on August 16, the NHC" – recommend "In the early hours of August 16,"
Done! Tails Wx 13:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"were counteracted by northerly wind shear" – wikilink wind shear IMO.
Done! Tails Wx 13:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"moved slowly southwestward, steered around a ridge" – should be "steering" for the sentence to make sense.
Done! Tails Wx 13:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Henri turned toward the north" – I think this should be "Henri turned towards the north" – ignore me if this is valid in American English though.
Yeah, it's better without the "s" in toward. Thanks for the suggestion, though! Tails Wx 14:21, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
YKW, I've changed it. Thanks! Tails Wx 17:38, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh haha—noted! ツLunaEatsTuna (💬)— 17:44, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"approached southern New England." – wikilink per my point above.
Done! Tails Wx 13:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"before becoming post-tropical later that same day." – wikilink post-tropical – I feel like this is a lot less known than, say, a storm or tropical depression.
Done! Tails Wx 13:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Preparations

"When Henri started to move away from Bermuda" – what time/date?
I would wikilink flash flooding.
Done! Tails Wx 13:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"saying "it ain't over until it's over", and" – is this quote really worth noting?
Removed! Tails Wx 13:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"that Henri wasn't as bad" – was not.
Done! Tails Wx 13:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"as it could have been." – perhaps something like "was not as bad as predicated/previously thought" etc. would sound better?
Changed to "as previously anticipated". Tails Wx 13:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"deployed FEMA" – I would spell out the full name with the abbreviation in parentheses as it seems this may not be a universally recognised name. i.e. the article for NASA is called by its initials.
Done! Tails Wx 13:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Impact

"the then wettest hour" – "the then-wettest hour".
Done! Tails Wx 13:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"A concert, WE LOVE NYC: The Homecoming Concert, which" – I do not think the name of the concert is relevant here.
Removed name of the concert, thanks! Tails Wx 13:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Henricks with 6 inches (150 mm)," – with does not look like the right word choice here,
Removed! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"slightly more than 4 inches (100 mm) fall." – remove fall, or it could also be "slightly more than 4 inches (100 mm) of rainfall."
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"decreased greatly on August 23. with" – comma :0
Added :) Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"with 71 in Ulster County" – recommend "with 71 outages in Ulster County" for some clarity.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Overall, a few thousand people" – recommend "In total, a few thousand people"
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"None forced road closures." – eh, I feel like this sentence could be removed.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"has made 2021 the" – "made 2021 the" – past-tense since 2021 is ~~luckily~~ over.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"however, these led to only few disruptions in service." – a few.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"were out of power" – I think this should be "were without power".
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"In Cranston, 11 inches of rain fell," – how about "In Cranston, there were 11 inches of rainfall," instead?
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"75% of the town" – "75 percent" per MOS:%.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"estimated 15 to 20%" – as above.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would remove the sentence starting "On the afternoon of August 22, A Four Boys Ice Cream posted a video on Facebook …" as it seems unnecessary, and perhaps adapt "The place was flooded with up 4 feet (1.2 m) of water," to "Some places were flooded with up 4 feet (1.2 m) of water," or something similar.
Removed, changed! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"some up to 2 feet (61 cm) of water" – "some up to 2 feet (61 cm) high."
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Remove "as noted by the town police chief, Michael Zarro Jr." as unnecessary in this context.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"five inches (170 mm) of rain fell in Ship Bottom," – duplicate link.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Over 248" – 248 what?
Clarified! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"the game between the Boston Red Sox and Texas Rangers was postponed." – how about "the game between the Boston Red Sox and Texas Rangers had to be postponed."
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikilink waterspout.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Aftermath

"nearly 90%" – percent.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"outages, on August 23, would" – reads awkwardly; recommend adding the date at the start of this sentence.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"The RIDEM helped" – same point as with FEMA.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"American Red Cross had helped" – just helped is fine.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Total homes had" – total homes?
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Refs

Passes spotcheck—no concerns with refs 6, 26, 28, 40, 51, 60 or 74. Nice work!

Other

Short desc, portals, External links, navs, other templates and cats look good.

Noted, thanks! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please add WP:ALT text if possible.
Done! Tails Wx 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 18:30, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article history

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... that during Hurricane Henri, a 30-foot sailboat named Paws washed onshore in Newport, Rhode Island, but the owner was never found? Source: The Washington Post
- ALT1: ... that after Hurricane Henri hit Connecticut, crews helped from as far away as Texas? Source: CBS
- Reviewed:

Created by Tails Wx (talk). Self-nominated at 23:10, 27 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hurricane Henri; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General eligibility:
New enough:
Long enough:
Other problems:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Other problems:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Article was promoted to Good Article status on February 22, 2023, with no issues found, it is good to go with ALTo. 09:06, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Noted, thanks! Tails Wx 16:52, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the nominator's comment to the correct spot and added the word "from" to ALT1. Bruxton (talk) 18:20, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0 does not work. The sources are not clear on "owner was never found". The Washington Post article states "An approximately 30-foot sailboat, named Paws, had washed up to the shore just below the park and tilted on its right side.... its owner appeared nowhere in sight." I imagine the owner was later tracked down. in any event ALT1 is mildly interesting. Bruxton (talk) 18:29, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fire island closure

I really think the fire Island closure should be added. I would add it myself except the NPS link isn’t loading, here it is: https://www.nps.gov/fiis/learn/news/20210821-hurricane-henri-closures.htm 108.58.27.76 (talk) 15:55, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]