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help search[edit]

When I search help there is an error «An error has occurred while searching: The search backend returned an error:» it does not say what the error is. Help search is broken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shabratha (talkcontribs) 13:58, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

  • @Shabratha: thank you for pointing this out. There is currently technical work happening on Wikipedia's search functions. I have tested the search function on the contents page and I get the same error. I will ask for technical assistance. --Pine 16:13, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
@Shabratha and Pine: Could you enable New search at beta features? This has sometimes fixed this problem. --Glaisher (talk) 16:25, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't want beta features. I want help to work. Kindly do the needful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shabratha (talkcontribs) 09:10, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

@Shabratha: The new "beta" search is due to become the default search here on August 27 (mw:Search#Timeline). Since the existing search code is being phased out, I doubt if anyone will be trying to fix it. So your options are to enable "beta" search or to wait for the new code. Please remember that most of the code developers are unpaid volunteers, just like the editors and administrators here. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:35, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Help page says I should try FAQ, but FAQ search is broken too. Shabratha (talk) 10:00, 3 July 2014 (UTC) This is stupid. I tried fixing a picture which is against copyright, but nothing happened, so I came to Help. The help page does not mention copyright, so I tried help search. Help search is broken so I asked here, and the answer isn't «Here's how to do it», the answer is «Yes we know help search is broken, wait 2 months». Then I tried FAQ, but FAQ search is broken too. Then I asked at but no answer. Then I tried the beta search. Beta search sent me to but that says «Image copyright concerns are not handled on this board». It then sent me to but that is very wikitechnical and has no help. If insiders know that beta search works and help search doesn't work, why do the help and FAQ pages use the broken one? This is stupid and it is a waste of time. Shabratha (talk) 10:28, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

@Shabratha: I'm sorry you got frustrated. The "search" boxes at Help:Contents and Wikipedia:FAQ use whichever search has been chosen by the user doing the search; there's nothing available in the software that can change this behaviour. I've tried searching for the word "copyright" in both these search boxes and got some fairly sensible answers.
Your question at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions#Aerial photos probably hasn't been answered yet because there is not enough detail. I've made a comment there. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:23, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

You need an FAQ on the help page for how to start a post on the talk page. I went to a talk page, and there were no subspaces to start a post that the article needed a description of 1 of the words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YouRang? (talkcontribs) 16:32, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

The search for help within help is no longer searching for help within help. (talk) 23:17, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Protection query[edit]

Is this page semi protected or fully protected? (talk) 00:58, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi -- John of Reading (talk) 06:49, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Copyedits to headings[edit]

I'd like to make the following changes to streamline the headings on this page:

  1. I want info about browsing or searching » I want to read or find an article
  2. I want to edit Wikipedia » I want to edit an article

I think both speak for themselves, but I can elaborate on my reasoning if necessary.—Neil P. Quinn (talk) 20:16, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Support --Moxy (talk) 07:29, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Sounds fine to me. the wub "?!" 12:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Support sounds better if anything. --Mrjulesd (talk) 12:30, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Okay, thanks, I'll go ahead and make the changes.—Neil P. Quinn (talk) 20:21, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2015[edit]

Bisinh (talk) 13:56, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not requested a change, but I suspect you are in the wrong place, as this page is only to discuss improvements to Help:Contents.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Given the nature of this page, you will also need to reach consensus before any significant changes are implemented. - Arjayay (talk) 14:40, 5 February 2015

there is no page for this[edit]

hi im tring to delete my user but there is no page on it does this mean i cannot delete my user or have you just not added it yet

Youtubelover116 (talk) 17:30, 20 March 2015 (UTC)youtubelover116Youtubelover116 (talk) 17:30, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Proposal for Help:Contents expansion with elements of Help Menu[edit]

This is a proposal for an expansion of the Help:Contents page with elements from the Help Menu.

Permanent link of proposed change to Help:Contents:

Permanent comparison of above with present Help:Contents:

Q. Why do this?

A. These are my reasons for proposing this change:

(a) The Help Menu is an under-utilised resource. The Help:Contents page get approximately 50X the amount of traffic as Help:Contents/Browse. So only one in 50 people notices the link to the Main Menu, and decides to follow it. I think it is a shame, as many of the links could be helpful, but they may never even be noticed let alone utilised.

(b) It would cut down on confusion. The "main help page" being separate from the Help Menu is in my view confusing, and what at least to me at first. While this doesn't remove the Help Menu it down much to explain it in terms of the main help page.

(c) If the help menu is not noticed or followed, where is the next continuation of help exploration? It is the very complicated help and rule navboxes at the bottom. I think if people follow the help menu links instead, the provided links are less confusing and off-putting.

(d) Possible elimination of the help menu, although it does retain some elements not in this design.

Views would be appreciated. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 15:46, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

  • Support – nice way to make a useful resource visible. It used to be the Help:Contents page, and for good reason: it's the main help menu page (that is, the top page of the multi-page help menu system). The Transhumanist 03:42, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your comments. Which is the top-level is a little confusing, as Help:Contents has a simpler url than Help:Contents/Browse, and also Help:Contents is accessed from the permanent left page column. But this should help to make things a bit simpler. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 10:42, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Support - all looks good to me....I say go for it....after a few more comments. -- Moxy (talk) 14:52, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2015[edit]

Kumachan1 (talk) 11:16, 24 May 2015 (UTC) HelpInsert non-formatted text he—re

Not done as you have not requested a specific change, but I suspect you are in the wrong place, as this page is only to discuss improvements to Help:Contents.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Given the nature of this page, you will also need to reach consensus before any significant changes are implemented. - Arjayay (talk) 12:18, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia Adventure nominated for deletion[edit]

Hi, I'm notifying you of a discussion because The Wikipedia Adventure is included in Help:Contents and it has been nominated for deletion. You can comment here: Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Adventure_(2nd_nomination). Cheers, Jake Ocaasi t | c 15:59, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2015[edit]

Momir Petković (born 21 July 1953) is a Serbian Olympic wrestling champion- Should say "a Yugoslav Olympic wrestling champion" (talk) 17:24, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Not done as you are in the wrong place, since this page is only to discuss improvements to Help:Contents.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this on the talk page of the relevant article in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 20:01, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2015[edit] (talk) 07:10, 24 September 2015 (UTC) -- (talk) 07:10, 24 September 2015 (UTC)-- (talk) 07:10, 24 September 2015 (UTC)'Bold text'

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 07:25, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2015[edit] (talk) 11:10, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 12:33, 6 November 2015 (UTC)


I have removed the tip of the day as per previous talks on the matter. -- Moxy (talk) 22:29, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

@Moxy: Things change, and so has the tip of the day. There are some very good reasons to include the TOTD these days:
  • The department has been revitalized, with strong ongoing support to keep the tips and the tip library up-to-date and relevant. JoeHebda is doing one hell of a good job as the TOTD's driving force.
  • Many new tips have been added to the collection.
  • Tips are checked, double-checked, and triple-checked before they "go live". There is a buffer of about 60 days of tips reviewed and ready for their go live date.
  • The tip has been reformatted to match the style of the Help:Contents page.
  • Placed at the bottom of the page, it doesn't compete with the contents, while providing all the benefits of a daily useful tip.
  • The tips are designed to solve problems and provide powerful resources the reader might otherwise miss.
  • It's one of WP's help departments, providing an alternative way to learn the ropes (with a tip library, categorized by area of activity).
  • It's a distinct feature of WP, and part of its personality; it also employs some advanced templating, which editors may find very useful.
  • There's no better place for a dynamically renewing helpful tip than Wikipedia's main help page. ;)
  • It's the equivalent to "random article" for the help department.
  • It's like the "selected article" feature of portals, but highlighting a help page.
  • It's an added incentive for newbies to return to the help page each day, to see what the daily tip is, and each time they do they are exposed to Wikipedia's main help categories again, which helps familiarize them with the project faster.
  • It's fun and interesting! Which are keys for effective teaching and learning.
Keep in mind that the tip was on the page for 46 days (until removed) without generating any complaints. Please consider returning this quality feature to the Help:Contents page. Thank you Moxy. As always, in support of every aspect of the help department, yours sincerely, The Transhumanist 12:30, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
I think Its just to overwhelming (takes up half the page) for a small amount of info that people were not looking for. A link would be fine but no need to dominate the page with one hint. The reasons outlined at Help talk:Contents/Archive 6#RfC: Redesign of Help:Contents still hold true...and is the only item removed mention of merits to include...noone though it was a good idea to dominate the page with one random hint. -- Moxy (talk)
@Moxy: 365 "random" hints per year. But I like to think they are the 365 best tips we could find—to get up to speed quickly and become a more capable user. They are highlights of the help system. And being at the bottom of the page, it is a nice daily bonus to the overview preceding it, that users can come back to again and again. If the TOTD attracts a readership, and I suspect it does, those individuals return to Help:Contents, which is a good thing. (Another opportunity to read the manual). By the way, there are a couple other points I forgot to mention in my list above:
  • Each tip includes a link to the tip library, which is a mini-help system that summarizes and draws the reader into the overall help system pretty well. A subset that is useful to help get up to speed as a skilled user.
  • The TOTD is portable, meaning users can take it home with them (that is, place a piece of the help system on their user pages or user talk pages). This makes it more likely they will read a little bit of WP's help documentation each day, thereby improving their skills and know-how as editors of the 'pedia.
Our goal here is to help users become better users. A nice little daily supplement of knowledge, easy to digest, adds up quickly. ;) The Transhumanist 00:53, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Tip of the day...
Explaining Wiki markup to other users

The <nowiki> tag can be useful to suppress the interpretation of Wiki markup. This is often useful to demonstrate or explain Wiki markup language to another user.

Wiki markup (and Wiki tags that resemble HTML tags) that are placed between <nowiki> and </nowiki> are not interpreted, and are displayed on the page just the way they are typed. For example, [[this]] would ordinarily form a wikilink, but since it is placed between <nowiki> and </nowiki>, like this: <nowiki>[[this]]</nowiki>, no such link is formed. This is rarely of use in an actual Wikipedia article.

The <nowiki> tag is helpful, for example, when asking questions at the Teahouse and explaining issues at the Village Pump as well as on an article's Talk page. In this case 'the markup code' can be displayed without being actionable.

Read More:
To add this auto-updating template to your user page, use {{totd3}}

Copied from the totd talk page:

Is there a way to make this smaller? Having it take up half the page with so little info is a bit much on a help page full of topic specific info. -- Moxy (talk) 16:07, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Greetings Moxy and The Transhumanist - Chiming in with my two cents worth. Perhaps the right side blue box (like on this page above, across from TOC) could be used instead? It is positioned with {{right|{{totd3}}}}. BTW, I really like the side-by-side look of the Help:Contents page.
My suggestion is, at Additional searches section, to move the searchboxes to the left (same one-half page format as most of the Help Contents page), and add Totd3 template on the right side paired with the searchboxes. I don't know the "magic wikicode" to accomplish this so I'm hoping either of you or another editor can help if this sounds like a reasonable solution. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 17:09, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Shit ..just wrote stuff at the tlak page...but this half thing sounds like it could work.-- Moxy (talk) 17:41, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

(end of copy)

Fitting it into a column in a 2-column format works for me. We can format it to pretty much fit anywhere. The Transhumanist 07:43, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

 Done Matching the section format of the page, rather than using the blue box to the right. The Transhumanist 09:20, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

  • Thanks! The Transhumanist for making this update. It looks great and fits right in with the other page sections, two-column format. I agree, it looks better on the left column. Cheers! JoeHebda (talk) 21:51, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Help please arbitration committee[edit]

 Vanjagenije , 1 , 2 , 3.

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2016[edit]

Robertmaschio (talk) 20:45, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

I am requesting a complete removal of the entry on the personal section of my wikipedia page with regards to a frivolous lawsuit brought against me 7 years ago, which was dismissed. The daughter of the man who brought that lawsuit against me posted a link to a tabloid reports, wherein she repeats an unsubstantiated quote from a section of the dismissed lawsuit. These were allegations made against me that were so weak & dishonest & proven to be factually inaccurate that they whole lawsuit was withdrawn. Therefore, I am requesting a complete removal of the following contribution: Maschio was accused of assault and battery in 2009. He allegedly choked a staff member at a "Make-A-Wish" fundraiser grabbing him by his necktie and lifting him off the ground when he was told bidding on an art item had closed. He allegedly yelled "let's take this outside" at the victim. In no way is this appropriate or relevant for the personal life section of my wikipedia page. In NO way has it ever been verified as to it's accuracy, it is simply repeating an allegation. - Robert Maschio 5.4.2016 Robertmaschio (talk) 20:45, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Robert, The material in question has been removed - and I have left a warning with the user that replaced it as well as a general warning on the talkpage of that article. IMDb is absolutely not an appropriate source in this situation. SQLQuery me! 01:54, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Suggested change to Editing Wikipedia[edit]

On the page 'Editing Wikipedia', I suggest changing the link for 'Naming conventions in general' to 'Article Titles'. It does, in fact, already redirect to the page on Wikipedia:Article titles This is also clearer to readers: I was looking for conventions on Article Titles. Susan.nls (talk) 09:47, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2017[edit]


Lilac Moon11 (talk) 14:20, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP (talkcontribs) 17:06, 10 April 2017 (UTC)


Hey all,

I'm looking into doing some research about the things that users seek out help for. If noone has any objections I'd like to add a brief survey to this page to collect some anonymous data about what people are looking for and how we can help them better. I'd like to add this in the next week or so. Ping me if anyone has any issues with this. Seddon (WMF) (talk) 22:57, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Expanding edit box[edit]

This might be the wrong place, but I can't find where else to ask, does anyone how to expand the edit box? It used to be as simple as going into Preferences -> Editing, but it's not there anymore, any help would be appreciated. YellowStahh (talk) 10:50, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

You should ask at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Ruslik_Zero 20:18, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2017[edit]

Sahabul SK — Preceding unsigned comment added by SahabulSKOfficial (talkcontribs) 07:06, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

How do you delete your account?[edit]

I am considering deleting it due to being a bit fed up with the site. This may not be the right place but I don't know were else to put it. If it isnt the right place just remove this.Apollo The Logician (talk) 22:16, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

See WP:VANISH. Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:18, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 August 2017[edit]

The Mayor of Mossel Bay is Harry Levendal with effect from August2016. Marie Ferreira is the previous Mayor. Hillhc1946 (talk) 09:50, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@Hillhc1946: This page is for discussing improvements to the page Help:Contents. You may wish to make this request at Talk:Mossel Bay. If you do, please include a reliable source and indicate exactly what text you want added, and where. RivertorchFIREWATER 13:36, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 March 2018[edit]

Dear Sir,,,

I'm here to report a claim on your agent (reseller) in State of Kuwait (Middle East), your agent recently raised the prices of West Cigarettes up to 64%, where other agents raised their cigarettes brands between 10 - 15 % , we believe the raise of the prices should be done as per the global market needs, and upon our government approval on the raise between 10-30 % which is accepted, but the raise of 64% is unacceptable and unreasonable. Therefore, we here the West Smokers in Kuwait request you as a manufacturer to take a serious action against your agent and force him to re-view his prices.

Waiting for your kind reply ,,,

Best Regards,, (talk) 12:38, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

You have posted at the wrong website. This is a behind-the-scenes page at Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia. No one here can help you with cigarette pricing. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:05, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2018[edit]

I need permission to copy Wikipedia article on kashmir and Pakistan for a book 2600:1000:B01A:1500:CC04:5EB7:D894:9CC6 (talk) 16:49, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Contents. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. JTP (talkcontribs) 17:47, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Mobile viewing[edit]

This page is completely jacked up on both mobile browser viewing and the official Android app. Pariah24 (talk) 20:57, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

"jacked up"....this academic term means good or bad?--Moxy (talk) 23:50, 22 July 2018 (UTC)