Talk:'03 Bonnie & Clyde/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Calvin999 (talk · contribs) 17:22, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Outsider comment - I'm copy editing the article and am almost finished. I'll leave an update when I'm done so that you can start reviewing. Thanks. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 17:41, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

OKay. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 17:43, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Alright. Calvin and Jivesh, I've done my copy edit. There may be some rough patches that can be addressed during the review. Jivesh, please have a look at my edit summaries and "<!-- hidden comments -->" before anything. Sourcing and prose clarity may be an issue. Thanks. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:15, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

I can't see any "<!-- hidden comments -->" in the article so I assume those points have been addressed? Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 13:33, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

They have. But the year-end charts are being added. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:34, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

What's happening here? There hasn't been any activity on this page for over a week and the review appears to be in limbo. —Andrew_stalk 09:04, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Info box

• Add {{Start date|2002|09|10}} template.

•  Fixed Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:44, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

• Add {{Duration|m=3|s=25}} template.

•  Fixed Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:44, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Lead

• "'03 Bonnie & Clyde" sampled its beat American rapper Tupac Shakur's 1996 song "Me and My Girlfriend" → Read this out loud. It doesn't make sense to read. "sampled its beat American rapper" is what's not working.

  Oh there is no need to copy me. You could have said it in your own style. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:07, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

  I'm not, I'm just saying. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

• Fixed. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• "It is based on" → Not the correct saying here.

• Fixed. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• ""'03 Bonnie & Clyde" was received generally with favorable reviews by contemporary music critics" → Over complicated. Change to ""'03 Bonnie & Clyde" was generally well received by music critics" and link music critics :P

• Fixed. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• "their collaboration" → Isn't this the same as saying "the combination of Jay-Z's and Knowles' musical styles"? Seems a bit unneeded to me.

• No, read "Beautiful Liar". It might help you understand. Did Rihanna mix her reggae influences or her Barbados accent in "We Found Love"? <-- This might help you understand better. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• Released as a single → Kinda obvious it's a single if you say released.

  Fixed. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• "the song reached number four" → "the song peaked at number four"

  Your reason? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

  Reads better. Reached sounds strained. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

• "first one as a solo artist" → Omit "one"

• Fixed. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• "and reached genrally the top 20 in other European territories." → "And reached generally"? It either did or it didn't. Omit "generally".

• Fixed. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• "It as nominated" → Typo.

• Fixed. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Production and release

• "West told MTV News that Jay-Z had asked him on the telephone for a joint for him and Knowles:" → What does joint mean? It sounds like something to do with drugs.

• Ala We Found Drugs. :P Fixed. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:13, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• I think you should use {{" '}} because it currently looks like a triple quotation mark. Do this article wide.

• No, it does note. If it was a triple quote, it would have been like this "". So, I won't change anything. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:13, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• "Tensions arose during the conception of "'03 Bonnie & Clyde" over the sampling of "Me and My Girlfriend.[4] Senior Vice President of A&R Tina Davis commented on the issue, "We only had one day to clear the [Tupac Shakur] sample [from 'Me and my Girlfriend'] that was used on 03 Bonnie and Clyde' last year with Jay-Z and Beyoncé [Knowles]. We were back and forth with Afeni Shakur all day until we got the clearance. And then it's a hit."[4]" → You jump straight into this, I was confused in the first sentence over why.

• Yo don't have to be confused as it clearly says: "Senior Vice President of A&R Tina Davis commented on the issue". Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:13, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• "Their relationship was not made public until both artists would collaborate on "Crazy In Love" (2003) and "Déjà Vu" (2006).[1]" → "Their relationship was not made public until Jay-Z featured on Knowles' song's "Crazy In Love" (2003) and "Déjà Vu" (2006).[1]" and link Crazy in Love and Deja Vu.

• Done. Plus they were already linked. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:13, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• "The latter's release also marked the debut of the solo career of Knowles, leaving Destiny's Child on hiatus.[2]" → Irrelevant. This is not about DC.

• Exactly, this is not about DC, she is embarking on a solo career leaving DC behind (on hiatus). Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:13, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Composition

• "Ethan Brown of New York magazine noted that its patina of flamenco guitar was reminiscent of that in Jay-Z's 2001 collaboration with R. Kelly on "Fiesta."" → Could you try and put a comma somewhere? It's quite long.

• No, it is not. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:42, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• "Knowles mimics the hook on the chorus as she sings, "Down to ride to the very end, me and my boyfriend"." → What do you mean? How do we know she mimics if we can't see her?

• Done. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:33, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Critical reception

• "who commended the use of different samples, and commented on the relationship between Jay-Z and Knowles." → Repetitive

• What exactly is repetitive? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:59, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• Commented. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:02, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• Read the sentence again. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:10, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• It looked like to "commented"'s to me. Perhaps change commended to praised. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:11, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• Why should I change it? I won't. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:17, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• Don't then. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Chart performance

• "entered the top ten on music charts in six European countries." → Do you mean debuted? Or entered after a certain amount of time?

• Changed to reached. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• "it became the highest-charting single that references the famous bank robbers Bonnie and Clyde." → Source?

• Well the source was on the next line. I did not put it at the end of each sentences because this was not a quote. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• "tying him with rapper P. Diddy." → for...?

• Done. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Music video

• Aston Martin needs a source. It's a brand.

• It's in the book Calvin. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:20, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• Okay. As long as it's there. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:25, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Toni Braxton feud

• "and her camp" → Re-word.
• "sent a statement" → Where? To Jay?

Fixed both. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:29, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Formats and track listings

• No issues. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Credits and personnel

• Jay-Z was the exec producer of a song? Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Oops. Removed. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:31, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Charts and certifications

• No issues. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

References

• FN10 and FN17 have a double full stop (..)

•  Fixed Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:44, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Summary

Only a few points to address, other than that, on hold. :) Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:30, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Passed. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:42, 29 January 2012 (UTC)