Talk:12 Memories

Reference ideas for 12 Memories

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Happy to Hang around

Doesn't it resemble the Cowboy junkies song "It doesn't really matter anyway" a lot? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.78.249.212 (talk) 07:59, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Beautiful Occupation

Thought this song was inspired by the Madrid bombings, not the Iraq War?

-- A separate comment from another user:
Is there a cite for claiming that this single failed to reach the Top 40 because of the Christmas holiday rush? If not, this should be removed as it's equally or more likely that a sizeable group of the fans and/or the public didn't like the song or didn't like it's divisive political themes ? Etweeks 22:34, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that there is a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in the article is consistent with fair use. I don't know if there are guidelines for removing notices like this, but I will **attempt** to delete it in one week. CharlesTStokes (talk) 07:36, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-catholic track?

I'd heard that one of the tracks on the album was written as an attack on this catholic school in Glasgow that Fran went to, but which one was it? Was it "Peace The Fuck Out" or was it "Some Sad Song"? I noticed also that you have to shine a light over the lyrics in the cd booklet, or sit under bright lighting to see the lyrics for the latter song. Andrew07 (talk) 18:41, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew07, if you still come around here, according to a BBC News article, Healy attended Holyrood RC Secondary School in Glasgow's Crossbill area, and the song in question is "Some Sad Song".^[1] CharlesTStokes (talk) 07:45, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Singer blasts Catholic Schools". BBC News. 5 October 2003. Archived from the original on 19 December 2020. Retrieved 19 December 2020.

Dead link

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/travis/albums/album/293489/review/6067768/12_memories
- In 12 Memories on 2011-05-23 02:41:05, 404 Not Found
- In 12 Memories on 2011-06-01 11:37:32, 404 Not Found

--JeffGBot (talk) 11:37, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above link is still dead, but the current link in the article for Rolling Stone's review is live and archived. I don't know if there are guidelines for removing notices like this one, but I will be deleting it in one week. CharlesTStokes (talk) 07:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dead link 2

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http://web.archive.org/web/20041024212813/http://www.nme.com/reviews/11415.htm
- In 12 Memories on 2011-05-23 02:41:08, 415 Unsupported Media Type
- In 12 Memories on 2011-06-01 11:38:01, 415 Unsupported Media Type

--JeffGBot (talk) 11:38, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The link above and to NME's review in the article are live and archived. I don't know if there are guidelines for removing notices like this one, but I will be deleting it in one week. CharlesTStokes (talk) 07:27, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Healy's depression

"Much later, Fran Healy spoke about the album as a whole being about him working through his own clinical depression, and the twelve memories being twelve reasons for him reaching his depressed state. At the time this wasn't mentioned, but the revelation that Healy was depressed ties in with the band's decision to take longer writing and releasing their next work."

The assertion above in the Wiki article is oft-repeated on other websites, ostensibly sourced from Wikipedia. I found two references confirming Healy used the making of the album as a way of dealing with his depression but can find no sources substantiating the portion beginning with "and the twelve memories..."

When Healy allegedly "spoke" about this, was it on the radio? Did he tell a neighbor one morning while fetching the paper? This kind of assertion certainly warrants a reference.

I am a newcomer and gladly receive your feedback! CharlesTStokes (talk) 08:00, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Singer blasts Catholic Schools". BBC News. 5 October 2003. Archived from the original on 19 December 2020. Retrieved 19 December 2020.

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