Talk:1867 Italian general election

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Wikipedia suggested I edit this article for "grammar, style, cohesion, tone, or spelling," which I did, removing grammatical mistakes and awkward phrasing. It should be checked by an expert in the subject area, however, for accuracy, cohesion, and the appropriate tone for this topic. DrSocPsych (talk) 19:45, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The seat numbers are impossible to understand

I look at many of these election pages for many countries. And I don't think I have found a single country where all the election pages have the correct numbers. For example, how many independent seats were won this year? Well, let's look at the other Wikipedia language pages to see where this article got it wrong. Yeah, that did not help at all as they all have different numbers even though they used the same source On the English page it's 43 seats, on 2 other pages it's 74 seats and 86 seats. Frustrating! But I will use the numbers from the page that actually do add up to the total.

Furthermore, the Italian page has totally different voter numbers too. So it's impossible to compare the pages: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elezioni_politiche_italiane_del_1867 JurijFedorov (talk) 15:38, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JurijFedorov: It's probably because in historic elections it was difficult to define the parties of candidates/MPs (as their party was often not on the ballot paper), meaning that the results can be interpreted in different ways. There are frequently differing seat tallies for 19th century elections for this reason. Number 5 7 13:55, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, at least get the total right then. If I say that there are 100 apples but only tell you about 80 of them. Then where are the last 20 from? The total has to be a combination of the previously showed seats. It cannot be a new number entirely. JurijFedorov (talk) 14:19, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JurijFedorov: Again, this appears to be something that has been amended over time. An IP added much of the current results sectom sometime ago (which did add up to 493 seats). They were changed to the current figures by @Nick.mon: in this edit, which meant they no longer added up. Perhaps Nick could explain? Number 5 7 14:30, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well this is a very good question. When I edited these articles, I noted that there were many "versions" regarding the seats' distribution in the Italian Parliaments during the 19th century, but as Number57 perfectly said, the difference consists in the fact that the Italian 19th century politicians did not belong to a party, but they run in their constituencies and then, once entered in the Parliament, they joined a parliamentary group (the Left or the Right). And often they change the side, during the legislature (this is an Italian characteristic even nowadays). You asked me where I found the number of seats, but sincerely I don't remember, maybe they were already in the article, or I copied them from another Wikipedia; it happend five years ago, sorry but I can't remember it :) -- Nick.mon (talk) 15:02, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]