Talk:1972–73 UEFA Cup
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UEFA match report links
[edit]As of April 2021 most of the links on the article are out of date. I've been updating the Tottenham game links as I go, it might be a good idea to convert the match report links to citations know. Govvy (talk) 14:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Missing matches + urls
[edit]@Geregen2: Thanks for adding the missing matches, I did have that on my list of stuff to do but never got around to it. Just to let you know 90% of the links on the page are out of date, all the pages (match reports) are on UEFA.com, all the reports need repointing. I've changed a couple to be citations, that's what I wanted to do anyway. Cheers for the work done. Govvy (talk) 09:27, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Geregen2: You do realise that removing the citations I added you've just destroyed WP:GNG, which requires citations, so you will have to add them all back otherwise the article is floored. Govvy (talk) 16:22, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Govvy: Really, I didn't completely remove the links, I moved them to the match detail sections. There is a field in the footballbox template called "report" for the link to a match report. You can check any other season page, say 2019–20 UEFA Champions League qualifying phase and play-off round or 1985–86 European Cup Winners' Cup or 1989–90 European Cup or really pretty much any other. The "summary" table under each round has only results, no references or links. The report links in individual match details serve as citations. Before I added the details for all the games, the links were useful in the "results summary" table (there was no other place to put those links, really, with the detail section missing). Now that the details exist and the links are part of those detail sections, they don't have to be duplicated in the summary table. Geregen2 (talk) 16:31, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- The problem is they become somewhat less obvious as a citation that way, yes its duplication of two external links on the page. I've never really liked the way we have that added match report like that. It feels wrong somehow to me, don't know why the element can't echo as a citation. Govvy (talk) 17:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Govvy: Really, I didn't completely remove the links, I moved them to the match detail sections. There is a field in the footballbox template called "report" for the link to a match report. You can check any other season page, say 2019–20 UEFA Champions League qualifying phase and play-off round or 1985–86 European Cup Winners' Cup or 1989–90 European Cup or really pretty much any other. The "summary" table under each round has only results, no references or links. The report links in individual match details serve as citations. Before I added the details for all the games, the links were useful in the "results summary" table (there was no other place to put those links, really, with the detail section missing). Now that the details exist and the links are part of those detail sections, they don't have to be duplicated in the summary table. Geregen2 (talk) 16:31, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Transfermarkt links for attendance and referee
[edit]Hi All,
Sir Sputnik removed all transfermarkt links with the note "transfermarkt is not reliable". I'm ok with that statement, but my question: in this case shall all the information be removed which can be found only on transfermarkt? On this specific page: all the attendance numbers and all the referees.
Thanks,
--Simy69 (talk) 07:17, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- The information can be found on other sites like UEFA.com or 11v11.com etc, so I don't see a problem. Govvy (talk) 10:01, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- I can't see these (attendance and referee) on UEFA.com. Is 11v11.com a trusted source? I don't see any difference between 11v11.com and transfermarkt.com. I can't find any reference to their sources either. Is there a list of these trusted sources? And by the way I can't find referee info on 11v11.com.
Simy69 (talk) 12:12, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- There are other sources around, my Spurs books have all the attendance data for all those games. So... :/ Govvy (talk) 12:35, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- This is called reliability IMO. In this case the proper behavior should be referring the book with the Template:Cite book. So in other words: if I put source (transfermarkt) to those data which cannot be found on the official match report on UEFA.com and this source has been deleted because it "is not reliable" I think keeping the data (in this particular case: attendance and referee) without citing any source is against one of the basic policies of Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Verifiability.
- I'm really curious about Sir Sputnik's reason behind deleting transfermarkt and keeping the data. Simy69 (talk) 13:26, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- There are other sources around, my Spurs books have all the attendance data for all those games. So... :/ Govvy (talk) 12:35, 24 June 2022 (UTC)