Talk:2009 NBA Finals
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Future announcers
[edit]The said it was ok announcers for the the games should not be listed (even if they are noted as "tentative") as there are no sources that indicate those people will be announcing the game. Having them there is a violation of WP:CRYSTALBALL. It doesn't matter that another article on Wikipedia is doing the same thing—that article should be changed also. – X96lee15 (talk) 23:53, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- The announcers are currently under contract with ABC and ESPN to be the lead broadcasters for their NBA telecasts. They are slated to be the announcers for the 2009 NBA Finals as of today. You clearly agree that ABC and not NBC or CBS or QVC will broadcast the 2009 NBA Finals. If that is the case that ABC is slated to broadcast the Finals, then so are there lead announce team. With your logic we don't know if ABC will even be the network that will broadcast the Finals. ABC has a contract to broadcast the NBA Finals, Mike Breen, Mark Jackson, and Jeff Van Gundy all have contracts to be ABC and ESPN's lead announce team. It is clear as of today they are expected to be the announce team for the 2009 NBA Finals. ABC is not cited as the broadcast network for the same reasons Breen, Jackson, and Van Gundy are not cited.--MrKing84 (talk) 02:21, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- ABC is under contract to televise the 2008-09 NBA season, including the Finals. There is a very small chance of that changing. However, they have not announced the broadcast pairings for this season. Like I've said, it's WP:CRYSTALBALLing to say they will broadcast, especially since they have not yet done a single pre or regular season game. It is an editor's WP:BURDEN to include sources with statements, especially ones in this case that are "predicting" what will occur. Please stop reverting my changes until you provide a source that says that team is the lead broadcasting team for the 08-09 season. — X96lee15 (talk) 03:02, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Is it cited that ABC will broadcast the 2009 NBA Finals? No. You say that it has not been confirmed that they will announce the Finals yet you have no proof they won't. It also clearly says in the sources I cited that they will announce for the NBA Finals. They did not say just for the 2007 NBA Finals or the 2008 NBA Finals alone, the NBA Finals in general. Those sources show that they are scheduled to be the lead announce team for ABC which will air the 2009 NBA Finals. WP:CRYSTALBALL does not apply here since it would also be WP:CRYSTALBALLing that ABC will air the 2009 NBA Finals under your criteria. Your logic makes no sense here. Please do not continue this edit war and revert my edits.--MrKing84 (talk) 03:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Ugh, seriously. ABC is under contract to televise the Finals. If the NBA Finals happen, they will be on ABC. HOWEVER, the chances that the crew you've listed will do the finals is much less certain. What if Van Gundy gets a head coaching job? Will he be broadcasting the Finals? No way. What are the chances he'll get a coaching job? 50-50? Maybe? Nobody knows. That's why listing the announcers is "predicting the future" and listing ABC as the network is not "predicting the future". ABC is going to broadcast the finals if they happen. — X96lee15 (talk) 04:49, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Source? By the way if a head coach gets fired midseason history has shown an assiatant coach takes over as interim head coach until the end of the season. If Van Gundy got a head coaching job this upcoming season, he wouldn't take over until the start of the 2009-10 season.--MrKing84 (talk) 15:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- That's not a valid assumption. It's impossible to say what will happen. Also, I suggest you read WP:CRYSTAL thoroughly as I think you are misinterpreting the policy. Judging by the content of your talk page, it seems that may be the case. — X96lee15 (talk) 16:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- You made the first assumption with your Van Gundy gets a head coaching job. He doesn't have a contract to coach a NBA team today. He DOES have a contract with ABC to be an analyst as of today. You are the one that is making assumptions in regard to Jeff Van Gundy getting this phantom head coaching job. I read WP:CRYSTAL long ago and that is how I know it does not apply here. I am clear on Wikipedia's policies thank you very much.--MrKing84 (talk) 17:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sure VG has a contract with ABC, but is he going to be on the lead announcing team??? Beats me. I want a source that says those three will have the "lead" announcing team for the upcoming season. You have been unable to produce that. — X96lee15 (talk) 17:26, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Who's to say he won't be on the lead announce team? I gave you sources that say they were hired to be on ABC's lead announce team and announce for the NBA Finals. Like I said under your criteria, we wouldn't even know if ABC will broadcast the 2009 NBA Finals. You haven't given any proof that Breen, Jackson, and Van Gundy won't broadcast the 2009 NBA Finals. I have given proof that ABC/ESPN has hired them to announce for their lead telecasts including the NBA Finals.--MrKing84 (talk) 18:03, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sure VG has a contract with ABC, but is he going to be on the lead announcing team??? Beats me. I want a source that says those three will have the "lead" announcing team for the upcoming season. You have been unable to produce that. — X96lee15 (talk) 17:26, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- You made the first assumption with your Van Gundy gets a head coaching job. He doesn't have a contract to coach a NBA team today. He DOES have a contract with ABC to be an analyst as of today. You are the one that is making assumptions in regard to Jeff Van Gundy getting this phantom head coaching job. I read WP:CRYSTAL long ago and that is how I know it does not apply here. I am clear on Wikipedia's policies thank you very much.--MrKing84 (talk) 17:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- That's not a valid assumption. It's impossible to say what will happen. Also, I suggest you read WP:CRYSTAL thoroughly as I think you are misinterpreting the policy. Judging by the content of your talk page, it seems that may be the case. — X96lee15 (talk) 16:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Source? By the way if a head coach gets fired midseason history has shown an assiatant coach takes over as interim head coach until the end of the season. If Van Gundy got a head coaching job this upcoming season, he wouldn't take over until the start of the 2009-10 season.--MrKing84 (talk) 15:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please discuss changes here before reverting again. — X96lee15 (talk) 14:03, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
You all are idiots and an embarrassment to human kind. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.26.205.157 (talk) 04:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Shortening the introductory section
[edit]I think the "head" of the article is too long. I think that problem can be solved if we took the longest paragraph in that section and give it its own subsection. That paragraph is the description of how each team got to the Finals. I also think that the subject of the paragraph can be further expounded upon, which would further warrant its own section or subsection. We have the "season series" in the "Road to the Finals" section, and the playoff records, so I think it would be logical to move the paragraph into that section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.151.26.104 (talk) 03:37, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Done. –Howard the Duck 17:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC), and lakers win the finals, beating orlando magic 99-to89
Game summaries
[edit]Can someone write one for Game 1? I got bored quickly I watched hockey instead. –Howard the Duck 17:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Mickey Mouse series
[edit]Okay, why does the Mickey Mouse series redirect to this page? It makes no sense. Mickey wasn't in the NBA. SeanWheeler (talk) 19:48, 25 October 2010 (UTC)