Talk:AIR-2 Genie

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Nuclear-sampling Drone Variant

I am unfortunately unable to add this information to the main article, as it is protected and I lack the proper credentials to do so. However, there is an interesting "post-script" to the Genie's career that I think deserves some coverage in its Wikipedia article. Following its retirement from use as a missile, a handful of Genies were modified into research drones for the purpose of performing aerial sampling of above-ground nuclear tests. Following their mission, the drones would deploy a parachute and be recovered in midair by a C-130 Hercules transport. At least five of these modified Genies were launched. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.135.227.26 (talk) 17:29, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find any sources on the internet about this. If you found the information from somewhere else, you can post the name of the source here.

Personally, I have doubts about the veracity of this information. Presumably the USAF would use existing carriers for these tests (F-89, F-101B, F-106; they wouldn't bother modifying another aircraft for this purpose), but given the high speed of these jets and the short range of the Genie (even if accounting for unpowered flight that might take it slightly beyond 10km), the carrier will probably fly through the radiation cloud anyway. And the midair recovery sounds even more like fantasy. Liu1126 (talk) 02:36, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

The statement by the OP doesn't seem too unreasonable to me, except the term 'drone' is probably highly misleading. The German Wikipedia claims that phased-out rocket motors of the AIR-2 have been used in high-altitude sounding rockets, namely the Astrobee. This was/is a very common procedure. Various sounding rockets have been built from all kinds of left-over solid-rocket motors. The Astrobee states some stages called Genius, not Genie, but that is already close. The capture of return capsules in mid-air, on the other hand, was also common practice, i.e. for the CORONA_(satellite) program. So the use of AIR-2 solid-rocket motors in sounding rockets that sampled fallout and capture of thir return capsules doesn't seem crazy to me. Nothing citeable though... 85.169.148.50 (talk) 14:52, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

@ except the term 'drone' is probably highly misleading

Elsewhere on Wikipedia, I've seen the term "target drone" used for recoverable missiles of all kinds, regardless of their similarity to manned aircraft (the Temco Teal MA-31and Beechcraft Jayhawk are good examples). The Genies were converted under the ALARR (air-launched, air-recoverable rocket) program, which replaced their warheads with test instruments.

As for citations, I read about it in the May 2020 issue of Aeroplane Monthly [1]. 135.135.227.26 (talk) 18:19, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2024

Location of 2024 rocket is Bellevue Washington, not Ohio

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68189568 138.128.232.71 (talk) 12:56, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done Observer 144 implemented the change in this edit. Liu1126 (talk) 02:14, 4 February 2024 (UTC)