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Acheroraptor size

I have found online the size of Acheroraptor, it is similar in size to Deinonychus, but I am not sure if this length have been published in the paper. Does anyone here have access to it, and if so, does the paper publish a size estimation for Acheroraptor? I am thinking the page needs more images, and I have completed a skeletal, but as far as I can tell, the length needs to be published in a peer-reviewed paper before we can use it in images without them being WP:OR. If I am mistaken in that context, please let me know so I can upload the image. Here it states that Acheroraptor was 3 meters long, and 40 kg in weight, it says here that it was 2.5 to 3 m long, on the Royal Ontario Museum websites about Acheroraptor (for example here), it says it was approaching Deinonychus in size - and wikipedia says Deinonychus was just over 3 m long. One more place a "near Deinonychus" size can be found is on David Evans blog, the describer of the specimen. Just to summarize, are these sources reliable enough for me to upload an image about size without it being OR, or should I wait until I can search the paper? IJReid (talk) 13:27, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Those sizes must be extremely rough estimates. It's not really possible to say anything definite about the size of an animal known from jay fragments, since it's impossible to know how big the jaws were compared to the head or how big the head was compared to the body, tail, etc. These were probably made by plugging it into Velociraptor skeletals. I wouldn't include them unless published in a valid source saying what method they used to generate those numbers. (I have read the paper and it does not include any size estimate). Dinoguy2 (talk) 12:03, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The size estimates are unpublished, and stem from off-the-record comments made by Evans. I decided myself to test them a while ago by scaling my hypothetical full-body reconstruction of the animal to the known material. It came out as such: http://tomozaurus.deviantart.com/art/Acheroraptor-scale-428788650 Noticably larger than Velociraptor, but not Deinonychus sized. We just come back to Dinoguy2's point thay we just can't know though. This only works if it looks exactly like my reconstruction, which is of course pretty unlikely. Tomopteryx (talk) 07:05, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Acheroraptor missing from cladogram

I hope this is seen, but Acheroraptor is missing from the cladogram on its own article, I believe it should be added either as a basal member of velociraptorinae or as the sister taxon of Atrociraptor, due to the Atrociraptor being most recent I believe putting it as a node on Sauronitholestidae after Atrociraptor. I have no idea how to edit a cladogram on here without messing it up, so I am only making a recommendation. Alison12605 (talk) 23:16, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]