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Avoid POV pushing this into other non-related articles
[edit]I will check out the RS and verify this is a notable term. --Inayity (talk) 08:30, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
- I was not "POV pushing". I don't really care THAT much about this stuff; this topic is not a major concern of mine really. WP was lacking an article on this, the concept does definitely exist, (you even know what some in China or Japan or India actually have believed and said and thought on this stuff? Many have a centrist view of Asia...) There was no article on this topic, so I created one. So? There are not copious sources for it true, but there are some. It's not zero.
- But I wasn't necessarily trying to "push" anything. It actually was NOT something I had so big an interest in. Imputing bad motives is against WP policy, by the way. I'd be curious what other editors (if any even care about this) might say. If they agree with you though, that doesn't technically make them right, but could have similar hang-ups too. But I do respect consensus. But for now, I'm not really bothering anymore with this. Regards. Gabby Merger (talk) 18:51, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
notability discussion
[edit]Initiated a notability discussion. [1]as it is clearly not some major race-centrism idea. Zero books in Amazon etc. Of the three refs given one is a blog, one is an email and the other is dead.--Inayity (talk) 08:39, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
- This thing does exist, and there are some sources. There was no article on this topic, so I created one. So? WP was lacking an article on this, the concept does definitely exist, (you even know what some in China or Japan or India actually have believed and said and thought on this stuff? Many have a centrist view of Asia...) But it's not really something in actuality I was all that concerned with.
- There are not copious sources for it true, but there are some. It's not zero. And it's not as minor as you tend to think. Regards. Gabby Merger (talk) 18:53, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
- this is pure WP:SYNTH, you googled the term "Asiacentric" and cobbled together occurences out of context. There is no "Asiocentrism" for the simple reason that "Asia" is not a natively Asian concept. There is, of course, Sinocentrism, but it would never occur to a Sinocentrist to include, say, Kazakhstan or Libanon in their view of what is at the "center" of their worldview. Also, for some reason, you titled the page "Asiocentrism" rather than "Asiacentrism", presumably to construct an artificial parallel to "Eurocentrism" or "Afrocentrism", even though all of your sources say either "Asiacentrism" or "Asiacentricity". So it would seem "Asiocentrism" is a made-up-for-Wikipedia term. This is not how the project operates.
- Apparently, this is either a topic of the "Asian century", i.e. description of the East Asian economic boom, or a topic of US social sciences, reflecting the rise of Asian American identity since the 1990s, and the desire to construct a parallel to "Afrocentrism". Just googling the term will hopelessly conflate these aspects. --dab (𒁳) 08:04, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Cleanup required
[edit]This article really requires a cleanup. Some issues:
- Further reading section only links to two authors, most probably self-promotion
- The first two sections are way too long and use WP:jargon
- Although the lead mentions it, there is no further explanation about how the topic links to the economic rise of Asia (I added a stub about this myself)
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