Talk:Austin Wade Petersen

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Padded page

This page has been padded by one, perhaps a couple more, persons to make it appear that the page should not be deleted. Tricky bunch. In fact, it should be noted that some of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, and BEFORE the notice of deletion. Buncoshark 19:19, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Look at the page history. The very first deletion notice was tagged 2 minutes after the article was created. The first contesting comments appeared after that. Though I do not really agree with the swarming, these comments are being made by multiple people. --Hamez0 (talk) 19:34, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've never seen anything like this. Note to anyone interested: please see here. GAB^Hello! 22:32, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted article

The article is simply an exact copy of the Austin Petersen article Wikipedia voted for immediate deletion. Even this talk page was transferred, with the pro-delete posts deleted so that it appears that people only contest all attempts to delete. Buncoshark 17:23, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

If you look at the history of the old page and compare it to this one when it was created, it's not even close to an "exact copy." This new article has much more unbiased information and more sources. Also looking at the history of the talk page, the old article's talk page was not transferred and nothing was deleted. Hamez0 (talk) 17:47, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So how did the contest deletion comments from the Talk page get tagged along? I love how someone edited out all the pro-deletion posts and kept the contest deletion comments here. Buncoshark 17:54, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Those were not transferred from the old article, they are new comments that were written to contest deletion of the new article when it was tagged for deletion after it was created. Click on "View History" of this talk page and you will see that no one removed anything. Hamez0 (talk) 18:49, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because Mr. Petersen's profile includes more than simply his tertiary candidacy for President. If that is the material in violation, I would be happy to reduce the topic to a mere mention and remove the category headline. With all due respect, I am extremely familiar with articles of other individuals on Wikipedia who are far less accomplished. The fact that Mr. Petersen has experience as an executive producer of a major Fox Business Network program and has starred and produced motion pictures is indeed worthy of a Wikipedia page in its own right.

All of the former extremely opinionated complaints appear to be filed solely by Libertarians with a vested interest in excluding Mr. Petersen from the nomination. This page is significantly different than the previous page since it was authored without knowledge of the previous page. I have no "dog in the race" and, therefore, am an unbiased observer.

All of the sources cited here are from reliable, third party sources, including The Washington Times. References also include multiple television appearances on Fox and RT on which Petersen offers expert political commentary. Jimmy Wales is a self-proclaimed Libertarian and our children went to school together. I know he would be interested in giving credit where credit is due as Austin Petersen is a noteworthy activist in the liberty movement and should drive much traffic to your web site.

Thank you for your consideration.

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:07, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... Austin Petersen is one of the top 2 candidates for the Libertarian presidential nomination. He will be on a televised national debate on April 1st. He also owns a prominent newspaper: The Libertarian Republic, and has served in prominent positions within the party. Considering a recent poll has shown the libertarian nominee may reach over 10% in the general election, I'd consider him an important person to list in wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheFlame8 (talk • contribs) 15:32, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:07, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... Austin is a legitimate candidate for the libertarian party. Those who want to delete him are merely his political opponents. They are trying to misuse power. --67.170.2.69 (talk) 15:35, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:08, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contest deletion

Austin Petersen is a notable person, even outside of the political realm, but he is definitely notable for this election.

There are Wikipedia pages that exist with far less. Hezymundo (talk) 15:41, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:08, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (It is a real person, running for president. John McAfee and Gary Johnson have a Wiki page too. Austin has been on Fox Business, Russia Today and other news media.) --91.138.24.168 (talk) 16:28, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:09, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (The information is true and factual.) --104.11.43.186 (talk) 18:24, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:09, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because this is a page on a relevant Libertarian Party presidential candidate and is not overly broad or narrow in scope. It fits Wikipedia's standards to remain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.2.255.92 (talk) 18:25, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:09, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Delete Article

Previous article was deleted for WP:NOTABILITY

"Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability."

Notability of the subject has not substantially changed since the original deletion discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARClitePangloss (talk • contribs) 18:38, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because this appears to be double jeopardy. An administrator has already cleared Austin Petersen as a noteworthy public figure. He is an executive producer, actor, and political pundit. I don't understand how many times in one day this "prior deletion" discussion has to denounced as unsubstantiated. Please help me understand if this will be an ongoing issue because it lessens the credibility of Wikipedia if there are Administrators seeking to remove the page who are looking to affect the outcome of a political election. I await your response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Staceyski (talk • contribs) 18:39, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Austin Petersen. --William S. Saturn (talk) 18:40, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The only reason this advertisement was reposted after having been deleted was to influence an election by using Wikipedia as a promotional platform. I had nothing to do with the previous deletion discussion, but it should be upheld because nothing has changed since then. User:ARClitePangloss —Preceding undated comment added 18:51, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It looks like supporters were sent to this page. It is linked from the candidate's twitter account.--William S. Saturn (talk) 18:55, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PROMOTION User:ARClitePangloss

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:10, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (The guy who demands the deletion is from another political campaign trying to silence others) --91.138.24.168 (talk) 18:42, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:11, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

It should also be noted that Buncoshark is a paid member of the Gary Johnson campaign staff...
- Not true, but do you have ANY hint, let alone evidence of that? Buncoshark 19:16, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested Deletion, but move article

This article should not be deleted because it is not "substantially identical" to the previously deleted article. Sources, sections, and content differ, and Petersen has been substantially gaining popularity since the original article was deleted. However, to be in accordance with WP:COMMONNAME, the article should be moved to simply "Austin Petersen" because this is what all sources use to refer to him. --Hamez0 (talk) 18:58, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, here is the last revision of the old article before it was deleted It is clear to see that this new article IS substantially DIFFERENT from the previously deleted article. --Hamez0 (talk) 19:11, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because this individual is a presidential candidate and legitimately deserves to have information regarding his person and history displayed on a page of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5C6:8301:1C25:5C5B:4B3:4F76:E487 (talk) 19:00, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:11, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --206.155.89.2 (talk) 19:01, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's about a potential candidate for president of the United States.

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:11, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because obviously Austin Peterson is a presidential candidate running for the libertarian nomination for president. Let's use some common sense here. --2601:742:8100:BE00:B87A:25BB:6608:9713 (talk) 19:01, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... Austin Petersen is a real presidential candidate --198.21.230.29 (talk) 19:01, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (It's wrong to try and censor a candidate just because another campaign doesn't like it. More idea's and people's ideas are better than less! ) --2605:E000:7D07:6500:46:2ED:7103:202D (talk) 19:01, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:15, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --198.137.161.2 (talk) 19:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC) This isn't an ad! This is fact about a man's life... just like any other person on Wikipedia.[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because there are people who are intentionally trying to keep this page from being published and they do not have a good reason to have it deleted. Austin Wade Petersen is running for President of the United States under the Libertarian Party and he should have a wikipedia page.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... its a factual statement that is an impairment of the actual truth and attempting to be deleted to forward a false propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.16.25.238 (talk) 19:03, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because he is a legitimate candidate in the Libertarian race. No copyrights are in contention. All links are verifiable.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... no reason to be deleted --129.252.33.99 (talk) 19:04, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (It is not an advertizment) --98.251.144.4 (talk) 19:06, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because Austin is an increasingly well known politician who people are going to want info on.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --JoeEsquivel (talk) 19:06, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The content is valid and neutral, it is not a self-promotion and it accurately written out with reliable source material.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... a viable presidential candidate for the libertarian party. Person is still in very active public figure on both radio, TV, and the internet.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... it's a political ploy to keep a true libertarian from getting the nomination by a rival.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --45.46.6.81 (talk) 19:08, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The person trying to delete is works for a rival campaign.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --108.11.186.184 (talk) 19:08, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The deletion request for this page was made fraudulently by a political rival

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... Austin Petersen is a real person and is running for the Libertarian Nominee for President of the United States.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because this person is an actual presidential candidate and information about his persona is important.

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:14, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... I don't see any reason why a simple, informative background piece like this should be deleted. Austin Peterson is a legitimate political candidate for President of the United states and the more information we have on any candidate, the better informed we will all be. --74.219.136.110 (talk) 19:09, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because it, like all other presidential candidate pages, should remain on the site.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --PIlot121589 (talk) 19:09, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This page should not be deleted because the content is neutral, and the person trying to delete it is a liar.

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:14, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --Bforish (talk) 19:11, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This page has substantial references, and is written as a reference page. There is no evidence of it being written as an "advertisement". According to the previous deletion discussion, his page was deleted because he was not notable enough. As I have seen countless wikipedia pages for candidates running for various State Representative seats, I think a top candidate for the third biggest party in the country meets the "notability" requirement.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --72.168.160.59 (talk) 19:11, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:13, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (There is a clear reason why someone is trying to delete it. That reason is only because this man has a political opponent who is waging a war against him. Freedom of information should always be encouraged. The readers have every right to view this information about Austin Petersen.) --167.73.112.8 (talk) 19:11, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... Austin Petersen is a recognized, registered, Presidential candidate with the Libertarian Party. Austin Petersen is also a known TV figure with multiple interviews across the media spectrum. He has appeared on Fox Business, RT, Sun News, and many other online publications. This page should also not be deleted because only one person, Andy Craig, a political opponent of Austin's is leading the charge to delete this page. It is nothing but political sabotage.

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:13, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

It should be noted that the previous comment is being pasted everywhere by the same person, ANDY CRAIG, in a futile attempt to delete a wiki page of his political opponent Austin Petersen. Possibly out of jealousy or a coordinated attack by the Gary Johnson campaign of which he is a member of the staff. -Roflpocalypse, destroyer of children with bad facial hair like Andy Craig.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (I see nothing wrong with this page. The content of the page is truthful and can be cross-referenced.) --134.129.205.210 (talk) 19:12, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --2600:1014:B12D:5051:E9F1:B327:9985:818C (talk) 19:12, 29 March 2016 (UTC) Austin Petersen is running for President of the United States as a Libertarian candidate. He is also competing in a contested debate that is airing live on Stossel with Mcafee and Gary Johnson. He is a well known candidate, CEO, and founder of the Libertarian Republic[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (Austin Peterson is a presidential candidate for the third largest political party in the country and is going to be participating in televised debates. Any attempts to remove this page are a political tool by his opposition and are not consistent with Wikipedia standards.) --129.41.205.101 (talk) 19:13, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that many of the "contested deletion" posts on this page were put here just after the article was created, by the same person and BEFORE the notice of deletion. The Austin Petersen are padding this page to make it appear that a majority is against deletion. Buncoshark 19:13, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... Mr Petersen is an political figure that is relevant to the current political process and should be included as such. --216.106.69.18 (talk) 19:14, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because...

After reviewing this article while researching 3rd Party Political candidates, I determined that it did not meet the criteria for a "Speedy Deletion". It in no way reads like an advertisement.

I do not own nor do I know who owns this page. But I believe any reports against this page happened under the guise of campaign tomfoolery. One candidates staff taking issue with another campaign leads to things of this nature happening.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --2604:6000:8E80:6200:349E:1374:B7FE:9CA7 (talk) 19:14, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Austin Petersen is a legitimate candidate for the Libertarian Party in the election for President of the United States of America. The page is being brought up for deletion by a rival candidate's campaign manager.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --2602:306:C58A:9A40:44A0:346F:EC03:4432 (talk) 19:14, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

He is a candidate for the POTUS. No other reasons needed.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because this is a legitimate page about a person and is no way meant to be an advertisment.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... Austin Petersen is a real candidate for a real cause and is a viable contender for the Libertarian Party and in which Johnson's staff is trying to eliminate Petersen's publicity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.99.152.249 (talk) 19:15, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --66.254.135.8 (talk) 19:16, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There is obviously nothing wrong with the page. Everything here is legitimate.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --188.210.24.40 (talk) 19:16, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This page contains factual information about Austin Petersen, who is seeking the presidential nomination for the Libertarian Party.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --104.244.106.123 (talk) 19:17, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It shouldn't be deleted because the guy is a nominee for president! More and more people are going to be googling him every day - especially once the Libertarian debate airs in a couple days. Wikipedia is the quickest source for a good summary of just about anybody or any topic. To delete this page would effective allow Petersen to be censored during the election cycle.

PLEASE do not do this.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... The underlying reason for it's removal is a political attempt to remove information about a candidate in order to control access the biography on another wiki page in opposition to Austin Petersen --146.7.4.78 (talk) 19:18, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... It is an accurate depiction of the life and accomplishments of Austin Petersen. Deleting this would only remove a presidential candidate from the wiki history. It is only being contested by other presidential candidates staff. If you are to delete this wiki then you need to remove all presidential candidates in this election from wiki.--2607:FB90:332:8606:AB7E:CE92:FC77:1175 (talk) 19:18, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... Austin Petersen is a major player and the voice of the Millennial generation.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... It is a legitimate article, factually backed up information. --96.35.80.122 (talk) 19:19, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because Petersen is a major political figure within the Libertarian Party, the 3rd largest political party in the US. He is running for president, and leading in many of the Libertarian nomination polls.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because...Austin Peterson is a legitimate Libertarian candidate for President. This is politically hackery at it's finest.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --12.179.122.226 (talk) 19:22, 29 March 2016 (UTC) A staffer for Gary Johnson, Mr. Petersen's opponent in the seat for Libertarian candidate for president, wants this page removed, because he doesn't even freedom bro! #AP4LP[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because Austin Petersen is an executive producer, actor, and political strategist. The people trying to delete this page are apparently Gary Johnson supporters with nothing better to do... Andy Craig and Jeff Smith should recuse themselves from monitoring and administering this page.

Argument to contest this deletion

I have yet to have anyone argue against my reasons against deletion. The deletion notice that was put up for this newly created article only gives the reason to delete this article because it is "substantially identical" to the previously deleted article. This is the last revision of the previously deleted article, in which I do agree should have been deleted because it is written somewhat like an advertisement and has inappropriate links to campaign material. HOWEVER, this newly created article has substantial differences and is clearly written in a more neutral point of view. Since some appear to argue this, what parts of the article are actually written in a biased viewpoint? --Hamez0 (talk) 19:59, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You need to look to the sources used. The reliable sources used are substantially similar. The only difference is the Washington Times article that is not about Petersen himself but the Stossel debate.--William S. Saturn (talk) 20:03, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There are additional sources, and the same sources are often cited in a better format. The old deleted article looks written and organized poorly while this new one has additional sections and additional content. The notice for speedy deletion only cited CSD G4, in which that criterion explicitly states that it only applies to articles which are "sufficiently identical copies" (not substantially "similar"). In any case there is sufficiently more content added to this new article over the old one that I would not consider it to be "sufficiently identical." --Hamez0 (talk) 20:46, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Given the candidate has not been selected by the party, ie he is not "2016 Libertarian candidate for President of the United States", I would suggest it fails the hurdle posed by the AfD. WP:DRV would be the appropriate venue to challenge this. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 20:52, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]