Talk:Autolysis (biology)

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Exactly who wrote this? "The manner in which an abscess "points" on the surface of the body and drains its septic contents on the outside is well known to every one of my readers." Isn't exactly the style one would use in wikipedia. This may be plagiarized. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.167.248.128 (talk • contribs) 00:49, November 1, 2006 (UTC)

This is a very bizarre article that appears to be based solely on the experience of one doctor, and assumes a level of knowledge in the readership that is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. I find it particularly annoying that the reference to autolysis in the information death article finds no explanation on this page , as it talks only about the theory that fasting can cure cancer, which seems to me like a rather unsabstantiated claim. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Freya77 (talk • contribs) 15:04, November 7, 2006 (UTC)

There are a handful of sources from supposed experts, physiologists etc. - supplied in various paragraphs of this article that seem to be dead wiki links. Could these references and people be further researched into and branched out a little further within wikipedia? I agree, that this 'stub' needs a little more research/broadening. Maybe this is some form of quasi-physiology, or overlooked science??? Any ideas, anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.155.65 (talk • contribs) 23:31, November 7, 2006

Agreed. This article increased about 2000% in size in two days, 30-31 Oct 2006, all from one user, and style and content look like they need a serious paring down and working over. The main thrust of the present article seems to be that if you stop eating it will cure your cancer. It's not terribly clear to me the difference between autolysis and programmed cell death / apoptosis; the latter is a well-written and encyclopedic article which may include most of what needs to be said about autolysis. Is there a tag for "needs an overhaul"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.26.85 (talk • contribs) 00:43, November 9, 2006

"This may be plagiarized"--good call. Wholesale verbatim imports from [1]. If no one is up for a major rewrite, maybe the page needs to be reverted all the way back to the stub it was a couple of weeks ago. Starve the tumor away, as it were. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.26.85 (talk • contribs) 00:51, November 9, 2006

One thing's for sure, I want to make sure that guy doesn'T get anywhere near me if I ever get cancer! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freya77 (talk • contribs) 10:41, November 9, 2006

Does anyone know how you actually mark this page as inaccurate? I think it should be pointed out to be people as extremely unproven theories, because telling people they can cure cancer by not eating is a bit of a big deal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freya77 (talk • contribs) 14:05, November 14, 2006

I'll second everything that's been said and say that this article needs a serious reworking. If I knew the slightest thing about physiology, I'd do it, but hopefully someone else 'll come along, lol... Nicolasdz 00:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Revert

I have reverted all the text copied from "The HYGIENIC SYSTEM By HERBERT M. SHELTON", it was not a copyright violation, since it was in the public domain. But it was not mainstream science (it might not even be "minor-stream" science).

Most importantly: it was not encyclopedic in tone. It was too long, and simply was not written like an encylopedia article (which makes sense, since it was copied verbatim from a text book).

I left in the external links to Russell Thacher Trall, M.D. and to Shelton's book. I'm not sure they really belong, but I don't see the harm, and maybe someone will be interested.

Ariel. 21:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Page move

This page should be moved to autolysis, the disambig is not needed. // habj (talk) 14:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

New material for comment

I'm relatively new to wikipedia (as a contributor) so would like a little help with this one

This article should also be linked to the Beer Portal - although I am not quite sure how

Here is my contribution, if the wordsmiths out there are interested in help editing it

Autolysis in brewing
If the yeast is starved of nutrients there is a chance it will autolyse.

Yeast handling conditions that might lead to autolysis include:
- Warm temperatures – cause an increase in the yeast metabolic rate speeding up the use of the yeast nutritional reserves
- Long storage times – this extends the time that the yeast relies on its reserves and increases the risk that the reserves might be depleted

There are three points in the process where autolysis is likely to occur
- in the fermenter after the end of fermentation when the yeast settles out
- in the storage (lagering) vessel if too much yeast is carried across from the fermenter
- in the yeast storage tanks if the yeast is kept too long before re-pitching

EFFECTS OF AUTOLYSIS ON BEER QUALITY

There are several negative effects of autolysed yeast on the beer
- Flavour – the autolysed yeast causes “meaty” flavours in the beer
- Autolysed yeast releases enzymes into the beer, proteinase A causes a loss of foam proteins
- increase in beer pH – the pH of the contents of the yeast is higher than the beer
- increase in amino acids (FAN) – the effect of protein breakdown

Andbrew.downes (talk) 10:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Out of date

A large portion of the material in this article, especially the section on cell death, is at least 15 years out of date. The article should either make clear the archaic nature of the scientific theories postulated, or be deleted. 18:38, 16 May 2010 (BST) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.237.205 (talk)

Relationship with fasting

Does anyone have access reliable sources about the relationship between fasting and autolysis? Wiki-uk (talk) 12:36, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Bread baking and beverage fermentation

The article should clarify if autolysis in bread baking involves the main topic, "the destruction of a cell through the action of its own enzymes", or is it a different process with the same name.

The article should clarify if autolysis in beer and wine making involves the main topic, "the destruction of a cell through the action of its own enzymes", or is it a different process with the same name. —Anomalocaris (talk) 21:18, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

New updates in terms of mechanisms and significance

First time contributor here. Attempted to make a new page and made some changes that were initially rejected, but I think I'm starting to get the hang of this. Mechanisms section was completed which includes references to scientific literature. Further, un-cited/unsubstantiated/somewhat incorrect information was removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amg383 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 7 December 2020 (UTC)