Talk:Aztec C

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Do not place a tag on this article suggesting that it is thanks. I have been down that road here before and the argument is unreasonable and not respectful of the effort that is put into writing a historical article without the presense of the world's largest marketing machine to draw references from.

Aztec C was listed on the Aztec disambiguation list. It much deserves an article since it is much a part of computing history. If you are a "newbie" and just got into developing software, let's say in the last 20 years or less, or didn't experience the development of microcomputers from the 60's to now give someone who did the chance to add to this without being destructive.

Instead, help me whip this into shape by doing constructive edits. Thanks in advance for the help.

--Bill Buckels (talk) 01:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Search Overview and Article Construction Notes

I started this article from the Aztec disambiguation list. I stayed with the original text in that list and expanded from that. That text is pretty accurate except that it refers to Aztec C as Aztec-C and it refers to Aztec-C as a language, and not a development environment. But looking around Wikipedia I have spotted many such mis-nomers and since arguably a C runtime library for a specialized target platform is a dialect or superset of a language, and since dialects in language itself like Quebec French are considered languages by some, this is fine as far as I am concerned.

Aztec C evolved from K&R to Ansii C as the industry moved through time. This is a little too detailed for this article and anyone who is interested in reading this probably already can make such an assumption if they care at all.

As far as Wikipedia searches go, the text placement in this article results in a good descriptive search when Aztec C is used as search criteria and I don't see much need for a redirect.

The important thing to me at least is that Aztec C has presense on this Wiki which in turn will provide some content for anyone interested in such things.

As far as references go, Aztec C Manuals themselves are cited as references in printed books, however even the Library of Congress has no listing in their online catalog for either Aztec C or Manx Software Systems, and these compiler manuals are long since not available and never were separately from the compiler. I long ago disposed of mine.

At this point, we really only have what people have written on their respective websites to cite when in comes to all of this reference business. I have had this dilemma on Wikipedia before when chronicling old stuff, and I have had people place tags challenging high-profile software authors of their own historical programs to prove that they were notable when anyone who was alive and plugged-in back then remembers.

It would be unfortunate if the same type of nonsense happened with this article on Aztec C. Since I am a recognized expert in this area, I stand as both a reliable and citable source, and what I wrote is factual. If all you know is what we have today, please leave this alone, or better yet find some better references than what I've had time to list.

Thanks in advance for the help.

--Bill Buckels (talk) 14:06, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History and Where are they now

I am in contact with Harry Suckow, James Goodnow, Thomas Fenwick and Mike Spille.

I have forwarded the updates to them. I'll get back to this with references a little later and perhaps with additions.

Thanks.

--Bill Buckels (talk) 15:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WHO vanished?

“Many professional developers used Aztec C compilers from Manx Software Systems before they vanished from the planet.”

ROTFL! The ambiguity of the pronoun makes it seem as if this compiler transported its users to another dimension, or in some other way severed their connection with Earth. Seeing that the software came from New Jersey, it is conceivable that this was just Mafia-inspired software that "rubbed people out." Or is "Manx" really meant to be read "man EKS", as in software to "eks out" a man? No matter how you mis-interpret it, though, it makes for a lot of fun. -- 192.115.133.116 (talk) 11:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many professional developers used Aztec C compilers before Manx Software Systems vanished from the planet. Many professional developers used Aztec C compilers after Manx Software Systems vanished from the planet. It is as my friend Graham Shaw once sang "A Trick of the Light". --Bill Buckels (talk) 02:07, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, let's get this straight.

I am a profesisonal software developer. I haven't (yet) finished from the planet. The sentence in question implies that "all of them" have vanished. So it cannot mean the professional developers.

However, this is OR, so I cannot simply remove the ambiguity. --Klaws (talk) 15:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

pseudo-Unix shell?

I'm trying to remember the name of the C compiler that I bought along with my first Macintosh in 1986; I think maybe it was Aztec. It had a shell-like interface complete with fake subdirectories, back in the days when the Mac had only a "flat" file system; if you looked at its files with Finder you saw that they were all at one level but their names contained slashes.

Does that sound like Aztec to you? —Tamfang (talk) 20:10, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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"disappeared a few years back"

A few years back from when? This is one of my biggest Wikipedia pet peeves. jae (talk) 16:33, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]