Talk:BM-30 Smerch

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Move to BM-30 ?[edit]

For standardization ? Bukvoed 19:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Go ahead! MarkV 05:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Proposed move[edit]

There is a proposal here to move this article to a new name.--Pattont/c 20:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Why BM-30???[edit]

Who selected the BM-30 designator anyway? The name of the set is 9K58 and the launch vehicle is the 9A52. No one uses the name BM-30, certainly not the user countries. dendirrek (talk) 06:12, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

The translated name is incorrect as well. It is "Tornado" (Смерч). Had it been "Whirlwind", it would be called "вихрь". Acorn897 (talk) 17:44, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Georgia[edit]

Georgia has been added as an operator. The source is a supposed confidential Georgian MoD end user certificate (written in English!), posted at a georgian forum. I am not sure if this is a reliable source and whether what it claims is true. D2306 (talk) 17:45, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Operational history[edit]

The following statement is not supported by the link used for authority:

"It was also used by pro-Russian rebels or regular Russian troops against Ukrainian targets during the War in Donbass."

The Human Rights Watch article linked makes reference to evidence of Smerch rockets being fired against Lugansk City, which was under rebel control at the time. The evidence points to its use by Ukrainian government forces.

Another Human Rights Watch article[1] makes reference to evidence of Smerch weapon systems being used by the Ukrainian government forces for the delivery of cluster munitions to Donetsk City. Again, the evidence is overwhelming that it was used by the Ukrainian side.

A search shows no neutral sources alleging use of Smerch weapon systems by the forces of Donetsk and Lugansk.

The misleading statement will be changed to reflect the actual information contained in the two Human Rights Watch articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.20.66 (talk) 04:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

  1. ^ http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions