Talk:Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union

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The Union that Killed the Twinkie

Can we include this up top? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.98.231.65 (talk) 18:21, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hostess went bankrupt in 2004, and has been running a negative balance since then. The Union and the Strike had nothing to do with the collapse of Hostess, Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.222.183.157 (talk) 18:25, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They emerged from the 2004 bankruptcy in 2009. The union refused to accept the terms dictated by the court this go-round, forcing Hostess' hand. The union is at least complicit in the downfall of the company, so to call them "The Union That Killed the Twinkie" is accurate. -- mhking (talk) 19:39, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hostess has "emerged" from not just one but many bankruptcies. Unions did not "kill the Twink" -- the Hostess executives killed it.... a couple times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xan81 (talk • contribs) 20:40, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

{ Hostess Brands has evolved through a series of acquisitions. Formerly known as Interstate Bakeries, the company picked up ownership of Twinkies, Wonder Bread and other fixtures of Americana through its 1995 deal for Continental Baking.

As the national appetite for the junk food waned, the company fell on hard times. In 2004, it was forced to file for bankruptcy, in the face of high labor and commodity expenses. } http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/hostess-brands-says-it-will-liquidate/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xan81 (talk • contribs) 20:47, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's certainly not unfair to say that this particular union killed Hostess. Sure the company was having hard times. That's why they asked their employees to make some sacrifices and attempted to make good by offering a bit of an ownership stake. Too bad the greed of the union leadership wouldn't allow the rank and file to have a secret vote. (Of course, why would they allow a democratic exercise of free will?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.65.100.72 (talk) 04:16, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]